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Vanessa recently took one step closer to her dream of hosting a Netflix show, recording the first ever live Math Therapy interview!

For her session last week at Leander ISD's annual Math Joy Conference in Texas, she interviewed self-proclaimed "chaos-driven non-compliant educator" Chase Orton - and you can now hear their extremely unfiltered conversation in front of a room full of teachers whose gasps are VERY audible throughout!

Chase and Vanessa share a fearlessness in calling out the education as it is, and in this convo they cover hot topics like:

• how teachers can stay motivated in a broken system
• who standardized testing benefits (hint: not students or teachers!)
• how to follow the rules while rebelling against the status quo

About Chase: (Website, YouTube)

As an accomplished facilitator of lesson study for K-12 math teachers, Chase Orton partners with districts who are interested in taking a teacher-centered, teacher-directed approach to professional development. Chase is also the author of The Imperfect and Unfinished Teacher of Mathematics.

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Exam season is upon us, but NOBODY PANIC! Today's guest, learning strategist Dr. Deena Kara Shaffer, joined Vanessa to share some simple but game-changing study tips to help you get through exams without breaking a sweat.

They discuss:

• what actually is learning, and what does and does not count as studying
• why we get trapped trying to perfect to-do lists & how to prioritize better
• how we can all use AI tools ethically to support our learning (not replace it)

This episode is for anyone (students, teachers, parents) who find exam season stressful and need a pep talk about practical & effective ways to learn better!

About Deena: (Website, Instagram, Facebook)

For over 20 years, Dr. Deena has dedicated her career to promoting more equity and justice in learning and enabling the success of more than 5,000 students, educators, and business leaders through learning strategies. As a keynote speaker, mentor, training facilitator, and founder of Awakened Learning Inc., she looks forward to any opportunity to connect with individuals and organizations who are ready to feel happier, healthier, and more at peace.

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Last week Vanessa ended her episode saying the podcast would be taking this week off while she was on vacation, but it might not surprise you that she is not exactly "good" at vacation .. so while she's definitely taking some much needed time off, she also could not resist recording this short episode after receiving a very unexpected and beautiful text from Timothy Jones, an inmate with the Prison Mathematics Project.

Our podcast is available through prisons across the US, and Timothy was moved to write in to Vanessa through their messaging system after listening to her recent "tax season meltdown" episode. He shared some beautiful words of affirmation that we can all tell ourselves daily, which stem from his own journey getting to know his true self and rewriting the false stories he was told about himself in childhood.

Links mentioned:

• Ep: Why smart people still feel out of control (and what to do about it)
• Ep: How math can help prison inmates turn their lives around w/ Christopher Havens
• Listen to new mini-series Heart Work by Imagine Learning, featuring Vanessa on episode 2!
• Learn more about the Prison Mathematics Project and ways to get involved

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Vanessa reflects on her recent self-described "meltdown episode" in which she talked herself down from a panic spiral. She was nervous to share something so messy & vulnerable, but the response was incredible - so many of you identified completely with her feelings. (Turns out tax season is a real trigger for us all!)

Today, she shares some of her own observations once she had de-escalated, as well as some of the feedback and perspective she received - and most importantly she details what helped her actually get organized as opposed to just spiralling over the fear of being disorganized.

Also, we got over 100 entries for last week's Texas Instruments "Oh My Math" Box giveaway! The winner has already been contacted, but if you didn't hear from us don't despair - we'll be giving away one box every month for the rest of the summer, so stay subscribed to Math Therapy so you don't miss your next chance to win.

Links mentioned:

• Ep: Why smart people still feel out of control (and what to do about it)
• Ep: This will change the way you think about calculators w/ Curtis Brown
• Imagine Learning's podcast series "Heart Work" featuring Vanessa (Pt 1 available now)

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Everyone's finally talking about math anxiety - in students, parents, and anyone that goes into a panic at the mere mention of the word "math". But one group is often overlooked: math teachers!

Many teachers find themselves having to teach math whether they planned to or not, and often without even being trained on the material themselves. But don't panic! Today's guest, teaching coach Heidi Sabnani, has a step by step process to turn that math anxiety into a classroom strength. She joined Vanessa to discuss:

• Is math anxiety contagious?
• Consistency - the secret to longterm change
• How to overcome math anxiety at any age

About Heidi: (Website, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube)

Heidi Sabnani, EdD, has been an educator in math and literacy for over 25 years. She regularly presents at regional and national conferences in the United States and has been invited to speak at conferences in Guatemala and Ecuador. She is the co-host and co-author, with Molly Vokey, of the Math 4 All Show and Math Activators for Reasoning about Fractions, Decimals and Integers.

This episode is sponsored by Texas Instruments! Listen to the episode for instructions to enter to win an "Oh My Math" box featuring:

• the new TI-84 Evo graphing calculator + 4-yr license
• an adorable plushie TI calculator keychain!

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Ever feel like you don't know how to take your own advice? Like you've learned all the strategies but can't seem to actually use them? Like no matter how hard you try to get your life in order, it just seems to get more complicated?!

Well Vanessa certainly does, and (at the encouragement of her producer) she hopped on the mic and let it all out in one of her most honest and vulnerable episodes yet.

With the help of her calculator stuffie and her trademark stream of consciousness outer processing, she talks herself down from a panicked state and explores:

• what an anxiety spiral looks like and what's actually behind it
• negativity bias + confirmation bias = catastrophization!
• how therapy tools like a gratitude practice can help
• what this all has to do with math education

If you can relate, or just want to give Vanessa a pep talk, send us a text! And share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it.

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500 BC: Pythagoras may not have even existed, but a number-worshipping / bean-hating (yet vegetarian?!) cult definitely did.

1600 AD: Johannes Kepler lays the mathematical foundation for Newton's theory of gravity while innovating in both astronomy and astrology (and also inventing the genre of sci-fi in his spare time).

April 2026: Vanessa learns these stories and more watching Dr Edward Doolittle deliver a fascinating keynote in Saskatoon and impulsively convinces him to be on Math Therapy! So they sat down the next day to discuss topics like:

• how spirituality (in any form) can help us bring our whole selves to math
• what the whole world can learn from Indigenous understandings of math
• the power of storytelling in learning

About Edward:

Dr. Edward Doolittle, (Kanyenkehake [Flint Nation = Mohawk] from Six Nations in southern Ontario) is Associate Professor of Mathematics at First Nations University of Canada, a federated college of the University of Regina. His interests range from probability (particularly in relation to partial differential operators) to Indigenous mathematics and the educational possibilities afforded by those different views of mathematics.

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Ever since we introduced the above link to text the podcast, Vanessa has been obsessed with getting listeners to do so. And guess what - tons of you have! So today she reads a bunch of them on a range of topics like:

• the problem with labels like "gifted"
• gaining math confidence later in life
• neuroplasticity and thinking processes
• who is Sister Beth?! (seriously, we need to send her a book)

Also, you can now not only text us but leave us a voicenote! Just hit the link at the top of this description and we may include your text/voicenote on a future episode.

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• Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email
• Math Therapy: Text the Podcast

More Math Therapy:

• Get the book: Corwin, Amazon
• Audiobook: Audible, Spotify
• Merch store: Shop here