In this episode, The Stunt Brothers reflect on the growth of their podcast and preview an exciting lineup of upcoming guests, including educators, researchers, authors, and thought leaders from across Canada. The discussion then turns to a deeper theme: the role of data in education. As Roy and Martin draw on personal stories and listener feedback, our hosts question whether data truly supports students and teachers or simply adds stress and drives unhelpful comparisons. They emphasize that data only has value when it leads to meaningful action, resources, and support. This episode encourages educators, parents, and administrators to share their experiences, rethink how success is measured in schools, and focus on what really matters: relationships, learning, well-being, and authentic student growth. And just don't mention the F word!

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Key Takeaways:

• Data collection in education often overwhelms teachers without providing tangible support.
• The overemphasis on data can detract from meaningful teaching and learning experiences.
• Despite extensive data collection, teachers frequently lack the resources needed to address identified issues.
• FSAs (Foundation Skills Assessments) are criticized for adding stress without improving educational outcomes.
• Teachers feel that data-driven approaches often fail to capture the nuances of student learning and engagement.
• The promise of data leading to additional classroom support is rarely fulfilled, leaving teachers frustrated.
• Data should be used to inform and enhance teaching practices, not just to evaluate performance.
• FSAs are seen as a tool for ranking schools rather than supporting student and teacher needs.
• Effective use of data requires a balance between quantitative metrics and qualitative insights.
• Teachers advocate for a more holistic approach to data that includes emotional and social aspects of learning.

Sound Bites:
"Teachers are drowning in data."
"Data for data's sake is frustrating."
"You can't put a number on feeling valued."

Keywords:
data collection, education, teacher support, FSAs, emotional metrics, classroom challenges, student success, educational data, teaching methods, school rankings, counselling support, educational assistants, emotional labor, data overuse

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Martin and Roy kick things off on one of those cold, rainy, grey days when five degrees or lower means snow is piling up on the North Shore mountains. With the weather closing in and the Christmas holidays behind them, the conversation turns to honest reflections on indulgent eating, missed workouts, and good intentions to get back outside and move more. Things get a little personal when Martin admits that hauling the recording gear up the library stairs felt harder than it should have. That realization leads to a timely field trip to meet Tine Parker, an Olympic sailor, coach, educational leader, and North Vancouver vice-principal whose work with Healthy Futures focuses on physical literacy, healthy eating, and getting kids outdoors. And just maybe, Tina has a few words of advice for our podcasters too.
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Keywords

Olympic sailor, physical literacy, outdoor learning, Healthy Futures, experiential learning, community support, wellness, education, North Vancouver, Tine Parker

Takeaways

• Tine Parker emphasizes the importance of physical literacy for lifelong health.
• Outdoor learning enhances student engagement and understanding.
• The Healthy Futures program supports wellness and healthy eating in schools.
• Experiential learning fosters deeper connections with the material.
• Community support is vital for successful educational programs.
• Tine's Olympic experience shaped her approach to education and coaching.
• Physical activity is crucial for mental and physical well-being.
• Teachers can integrate outdoor learning into various subjects.
• Healthy eating programs in schools promote equal access to nutrition.
• Tine's leadership inspires educators to prioritize student wellness.

Sound bites

"Physical literacy is key to lifelong health." "Outdoor learning transforms student engagement." "Healthy Futures supports wellness in schools." "Experiential learning deepens understanding." "Community support is essential for success." "Olympic experiences shape educational approaches." "Physical activity boosts mental well-being." "Integrate outdoor learning into all subjects." "Equal access to nutrition is vital." "Inspire wellness through leadership."

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For Season 2 Episode 20 of After The Bell, The Stunt Brothers are back in the box with their second episode of 2026. Roy gets creative with numbers while Martin seems overwhelmed at the odds he was ever born. This brings this episode to the challenges and preparations for retirement in the teaching profession. The Stunt Brothers know the perfect guest, the iconic Linda Watson, a well-respected figure in British Columbia's education community, who shares her insights on her amazing career, retirement planning, pensions, and the importance of being financially prepared for life after teaching. Their conversation covers various aspects of retirement, including the emotional readiness to leave teaching, the financial implications of retirement, and the changes in pension plans over the years. Linda's experiences and advice provide valuable guidance for all teachers no matter at what point they are in their career.

Takeaways
Teachers often feel overwhelmed with work even after students leave.
Retirement requires careful planning and preparation.
Linda Watson is a respected figure in the education community.
Pension plans have evolved, impacting retirement benefits.
Teachers should consider their emotional readiness for retirement.
Financial planning is crucial for a successful retirement.
Health benefits change significantly after retirement.
TTOC work can supplement retirement income but shouldn't be relied upon.
Understanding pension options is essential for teachers.
Retirement offers the gift of time to pursue new interests.


Sound bites

"I wore a ball gown to school."
"Retirement is fabulous."
"You get the gift of time."

Keywords

teaching, retirement, pension, wellness, education, teacher support, After the Bell, Linda Watson, career transition, financial planning

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The Stunt Brothers celebrate the New Year from a beautiful location on Pender Island, one of the Gulf Islands in British Columbia, Canada. They discuss New Year's resolutions, with Roy trying to bring light to the Dark Lord and Martin, after initially insisting that he is perfect, agrees not to interrupt Roy so often. The conversation transitions into the excitement of new beginnings in the teaching profession, as they prepare to interview four enthusiastic teacher candidates who have just completed their first practicum. The Stunt Brothers reflect on the passion and energy of these new educators, reminiscing about their own teaching experiences and the challenges that come with it.

Their conversation with teacher candidates Caitlyn, Emma, Chris, and Olivia reveals a delightful group who so willingly share their experiences and reflections on their journey into teaching. They discuss their backgrounds, the challenges and surprises they faced during their two-week practicum, and the importance of building relationships with students. The candidates also share heartwarming moments from their time in the classroom and offer advice for new teacher candidates. The discussion highlights the passion and dedication of these future educators as they navigate their early teaching experiences.

Takeaways
Teaching is a journey that requires continuous learning.
Building relationships with students is crucial for effective teaching.
Mistakes are part of the learning process for both teachers and students.
The practicum experience is a valuable opportunity for growth.
Creativity in lesson planning can make learning more engaging.
Teaching is not just about delivering content; it's about connecting with students.
Every teacher has a unique story and path to the profession.
Support from peers and mentors is essential in the teaching journey.
Reflecting on experiences helps improve teaching practices.
The joy of teaching comes from the connections made with students.

Keywords
teacher candidates, teaching journey, practicum experience, classroom management, building relationships, teaching challenges, education, personal stories, future teachers, teaching advice

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Roy and Martin wish you the best of the season with another Christmas bonus. These are part of the ongoing bonus series called The Fieldtrip Sessions. Each episode is called The Fieldtrip Interviews and is a remix of two previously released guest interviews. Today's Bonus Episode is a combination of two political guests Roy and Martin had on during Season 1, Trustee Cyndi Gerlach and Clint Johnston, the President of the Canadian Teachers’ Federation.

With their chat with Trustee Gerlach, The Stunt Brothers bring the listeners an exploration of diversity and inclusion in the classroom. This episode will be sure to evoke discussion among all the partner groups who strive to make diversity and inclusion work in today's classroom. Cyndi does not hesitate to answer the tough questions and calls upon her 14 years of experience as a school trustee and many years as a parent of two autistic children. As always, The Stunt Brothers strive to bring all the separate bubbles out there together so that we hear each other, understand each other, and work together to make public education the best it can be.

For the second half of this Bonus Episode, Roy and Martin visit Clint Johnston, Past President of the BC Teachers' Federation and current President of The Canadian Teachers’ Federation. The BCTF represents over 51 000 public school teachers in the province of British Columbia, Canada. Clint has just completed his second term as BCTF President and has now moved to Ottawa to start a new chapter as President of the Canadian Teachers' Federation. He now represents over 370 000 teachers all across Canada. Last May, The Stunt Brothers went on a fieldtrip to sit down with Clint in his Vancouver office. The conversation is deep and revealing and provides insight into leadership, unionism, activism, social justice, and family. Sit down and listen and maybe make yourself a cocktail.

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In Season 2 Episode 17, The Stunt Brothers wish you the best of this holiday season. Roy and Martin hope you get a chance to have warm moments with family and friends and manage to get some much needed recovery from the exhaustion of the last few months in the classroom. The Stunt Brothers start the episode with excitement that many new guests are lined up for 2026 with a variety of topics including an exploration of the journey of new teachers, retirement preparation with Linda Watson, and a deep dive into outdoor education and physical literacy.

Then it's on to the first of two more Bonus episodes. These are part of the ongoing bonus series called The Fieldtrip Sessions. Each episode is called The Fieldtrip Interviews and is a remix of two previously released guest interviews. Today's Bonus Episode is a combination of the two guests Roy and Martin had on during Season 1 for their two part Incivility In The Classroom. The Stunt Brothers, inspired by an excellent segment on the CBC Radio program The Current with Matt Galloway, wanted to discover more on the topic of incivility. So they spoke with Owen Howell, a secondary school teacher at Carson Graham Secondary in North Vancouver, Canada and Steve Zlotnik, an elementary school teacher at Montroyal Elementary in North Vancouver. Once again, The Stunt Brothers encourage listeners to visit our website at stuntbrothers.ca to offer their own views and opinions on this compelling topic.

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What starts as Episode 46 quickly turns into a milestone celebration when Martin and Roy realize they’ve actually hit Episode 50. This discovery sends them down an entertaining rabbit hole exploring all things fifty from fun facts to unexpected reflections. Along the way, they share thoughtful comments from listeners, look back on how the show has evolved, and reminisce about the journey that brought them here. With only 5% of podcasts ever reaching episode 50, this installment becomes both a celebration and a thank-you to everyone who’s been along for the ride.

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Martin and Roy kick things off with a glass of Martin’s home-brewed cider before diving into Martin’s most recent camping adventure complete with masked parmesan cheese thieves and novice campers in need of some help. Roy is asked to accompany an elementary school class to Science World. All this leads to a discussion about field trips in this very meta episode.

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