Craig is back with Connor Hassoun for round two of the Think Bigger series. They start with the story of Roger Bannister breaking the four-minute mile in 1954 and how runners who trained with him started breaking the same barrier within weeks. That sets up the whole conversation: who you surround yourself with changes what you think is possible.

Craig gets personal about his own path, including packing a U-Haul with two kids and moving into his in-laws' basement to chase a career in insurance that everyone told him was a dead end. They talk about the lies people internalize, how the word "believe" literally has "lie" in the middle of it, and three things that shape your trajectory: the way you talk to yourself, where you put your money, and who you keep around you.

It wraps with Connor's challenge to the audience: is your vision big enough to require more of you? He closes with a three-step formula he credits for his career: believe you will go further than you can imagine, stay clear on that belief, and start acting on it today.

Craig once asked his business partner Chad for a million dollars to get their company off the ground, and Chad said yes without hesitation. That moment kicks off a wide ranging conversation with Connor Hasson about why so many people, even successful ones, end up thinking smaller than they should. They talk about the three tells that someone has stopped growing: the way they talk about the past instead of the future, where their money actually goes, and whether their circle still challenges them or just agrees with everything they say. There's a real critique of the recruit-everyone playbook that dominates their industry, and why hiring fewer people and training them harder built something more durable.

From there the talk turns toward ego and identity, especially the moment a founder has to stop being the best performer in the room and start building people who outperform them. Craig tells a story about a $100 lunch with author John Maxwell that ended with one sentence that stuck with him for years, and there's a genuinely interesting bit about a goldfish that grows two inches in a bowl but over a foot in a lake, used to make a point about how much environment shapes potential. Somewhere in the mix of business talk and a Ted Lasso tangent, they arrive at the idea that letting go, of failures and of past wins alike, is what actually makes room for the next level. Part two picks up where this one leaves off.

Connor Hassoun built his own conference at 23 years old and turned his keynote into FORGE, an acronym for Faith, Obsession, Resilience, Gratitude, and Endurance. On this episode of The Drive, Craig sits down with Connor to unpack that talk piece by piece and dig into what it actually takes to build something from nothing.

They cover stories that stick with you: a brother training basketball drills alone in the snow at midnight, the true story behind Lone Survivor, a 1,000 pushup challenge on top of a 14,000 foot mountain, and a conversation with his son that changed how he defines "the greatest day of your life." It's a real conversation about faith, purpose, obsession, and what separates the people who finish from the people who just start. Subscribe to The Drive for more.