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The Daisy Chain

The Daisy Chain

By: Daisy Ogle
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You are not as lost as you think.


The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast for anyone figuring out life without a conventional map - whether you've lost a parent young, never had someone to turn to, or simply find yourself navigating careers, relationships and identity without a safety net.


Every Thursday at 3pm, host Daisy sits down with remarkable people across generations to pass down four pearls of wisdom - the kind that only comes from having really lived. Honest, warm, sofa-side conversation. Not hustle hacks or highlight reels. Just the quiet reassurance that somebody has already been where you are, and knows the way through.


Because nobody has it all figured out. But some people have already been through what you're facing. And knowing that eases everything.


Welcome to the chain.

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  • You're not behind. We're all just ordinary, in the middle, just trying - Sue Cook on growing up without support, finding strength through hardship and why we're all just figuring it out | The Daisy Chain

    You're not behind. We're all just ordinary, in the middle, just trying - Sue Cook on growing up without support, finding strength through hardship and why we're all just figuring it out | The Daisy Chain
    May 28 2026

    Most of the wisdom we consume comes from people who have arrived. People with titles, platforms, track records. People who have packaged up what they know and presented it as a formula. This week's guest has none of that. What she has instead is a life, fully, bravely, extraordinarily lived.


    Sue Cook is not a public figure. She is my neighbor. One of my mother's closest friends. One of the women who helped raise me after I lost my mum at 14. I have known Sue my entire life. And then I pressed record, and she showed me sides of herself I had never seen in thirty years of knowing her.


    Sue grew up with a violent father and a mother who didn't want her. She escaped, raised three boys alone without a car, built a career entirely from scratch, completed a degree in her fifties, and is now caring for Joyce, her 98-year-old aunt, with the same fierce, unsentimental love she has brought to everything in her life. She has never had a safety net. She has never waited for permission. And she has never let anyone else's opinion of what she can do change what she knows she is capable of.


    In this conversation, Sue and Daisy talk about what it really means to be strong when you're terrified, why nothing you learn is ever wasted, and what it looks like to build a life entirely on your own terms. Sue shares the unexpected gift her violent father gave her, introduces the zone of proximal development - a concept that reframes where you are right now not as behind, but as exactly in the middle of getting there, and explains what Joyce, at 98 and living with dementia, has taught her about presence, pleasure and how to really be alive.


    She also shares the one piece of advice that has carried her through everything: there will always be someone with more and someone with less. We are all just ordinary. Just trying.


    This one is for anyone who has ever felt ordinary and wondered if that was enough. Sue has something to say about that.


    Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼


    In this episode we discuss:

    • Growing up without a safety net and finding strength through adversity
    • How to be strong even when you're terrified
    • Why nothing you learn is ever wasted
    • The zone of proximal development, why you're not as behind as you think
    • Giving yourself permission to stop doing things you've always done
    • Why we're all just ordinary, just trying
    • Intergenerational wisdom, what the elderly can teach us about being alive
    • Building a life and career from nothing
    • The importance of friendship during parenthood
    • Caring for an ageing parent and what it teaches you about yourself


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    What found us- Links & Mentions


    Holly 'What found me this week'

    • Mob Fresh Cookbook


    Sue:

    • Quiet by Susan Cain
    • Come On Over by Shania Twain
    • Conclave — Edward Berger


    Guest: Sue Cook

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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • You don't have to know everything to deserve your seat — Joanna Christie on self awareness, people pleasing and career confidence | The Daisy Chain

    You don't have to know everything to deserve your seat — Joanna Christie on self awareness, people pleasing and career confidence | The Daisy Chain
    May 21 2026
    We are consuming more than ever and feeling less equipped than ever. More advice, more opinions, more noise. And somewhere in all of that, the signal gets lost. This week's guest has spent most of her career asking herself exactly what she lets in, and why it matters more than most people realise.Joanna Christie is the CMO of Moonfare and one of the most compelling leaders I have ever had the privilege of working under. She has built an extraordinary career across some of the UK's most recognisable brands, and has never once applied for a job. What makes Joanna remarkable isn't her title or her track record. It's the fact that she got here while openly battling people pleasing and imposter syndrome, asking stupid questions on purpose, and admitting what she didn't know in rooms full of people who expected her to have all the answers.In this conversation, Joanna and Daisy talk about what it really means to back yourself in your career, the difference between people pleasing and genuine kindness, and why curating what you let into your brain is one of the most powerful performance decisions you can make. Joanna opens up about losing her mother suddenly and the unexpected way grief handed her the most important lesson of her life. She shares her philosophy on work life balance, why she thinks suffer porn is a red flag not a badge of honor, and her simple formula for taking back control when overwhelm creeps in — clear the day, make the list, check it off. She also recommends Tuesdays with Morrie, a book about a man running out of life but not out of love, passing down wisdom every week to someone who needed it. Sound familiar.This one is for anyone who has ever felt lost in their career but still carries huge ambition. Joanna has something to say. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼In this episode we discuss:People pleasing and where it comes fromImposter syndrome and career confidenceWhy not knowing everything is your greatest professional assetSignal vs noise- being intentional about what you let into your brainHow to curate your feed and take back control of the algorithmGrief, loss and the wisdom that only comes from having really livedWork life balance and the truth about being a working motherWhy busyness as a badge of honour is a red flag not a flexSelf awareness as a leadership skillHow to take back control when you're feeling overwhelmedFollow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.comEnjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Leave a 5🌟 review - to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.What found us — Links & MentionsDaisy:Walking padJoanna:Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch AlbomThe Life-Changing Magic of Not Giving a F*** by Sarah KnightHAYUReal Housewives of Beverly HillsSouthern CharmRomeo and Juliet - Baz LuhrmannLove Story (1970)Ancient and Brave electrolytesCalm app - sleep storiesSauna blanketBio Effect skincareNuFaceGuest: Joanna Christie — CMO at Moonfare Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Stop waiting for permission to make your art — Colette Woods on creative courage, finding your artistic identity and slow living | The Daisy Chain

    Stop waiting for permission to make your art — Colette Woods on creative courage, finding your artistic identity and slow living | The Daisy Chain
    May 14 2026
    Most of us have had someone tell us - a parent, a teacher, someone who should have known better - that the thing we love most isn't a real thing. Not a real career. Not a direction worth following. That moment doesn't leave you quickly. The question it plants - am I allowed to trust this? - can follow you for a very long time.Colette Woods is a painter and ceramicist living and working in Bruton, Somerset, whose art has been described as whimsical, instinctive and luminous. She spent decades working her way back to what she always knew she wanted - through family discouragement, through the practical realities of building a life. Last year, she was so seriously ill she couldn't lift her head from the pillow. She's only recently started working again. And she has never been clearer about what matters.Daisy and Colette talk about what happens when you spend your twenties following other people's maps, and what it takes to eventually trust your own instincts over the noise. They explore the art of saying no without explanation, and why Colette's morning ritual - an Italian percolator on the stove, the sound of the bubbling, the smell, a mug she made for herself, toast with marmalade is as close to meditation as anything she knows. Colette also shares her recent rediscovery of John Singer Sargent, whose paintings of fabric she finds so extraordinary that she looks at the cloth long before she ever reaches the face.This one is for anyone who was told their passion wasn't practical, and has spent years quietly wondering if they were right. Colette has been there. And she has something to pass down.Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼In this episode we discuss:Being told your creative ambitions aren't a real careerWhat it means to finally trust your gut over other people's adviceThe power of saying no without explanationLife after serious illness and what it strips awayProtecting your creative process from commercial pressureCreating beauty and ritual in the everydayFinding your artistic identity later in lifeWhy emotions in art aren't a weakness - they're the energySocial media noise and why it's a lieHow to start making art again when you've been away from itFollow The Daisy Chain:Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.comEnjoyed this episode?Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom.What found us - Links & MentionsDaisy:The Prado Museum, MadridColette:John Singer Sargent - artist Hieronymus Bosch Three Colours Blue (dir. Krzysztof Kieślowski)Manon des Sources - French film The Other Bennet Sister - TV series La Bohème, Puccini - operaÉdith PiafGrace Jones - La Vie en Rose Guest: Colette Woods Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    43 mins
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