Episodes

  • Emotions Are Signals, Not Instructions

    Emotions Are Signals, Not Instructions
    Jun 16 2026
    Money is emotional — and in this episode, Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ and Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT explore why emotions have such a powerful influence on financial behavior. From market volatility and economic uncertainty to comparison, insecurity, and fear of failure, people rarely make purely rational financial decisions. Instead, emotions often drive reactions that conflict with long-term goals. Dr. Matt introduces a powerful framework: emotions are signals, not commands. Fear, anxiety, and stress may reveal that something matters deeply, but they should not automatically dictate behavior. Erik shares real examples from his work as a financial planner, explaining how emotional reactions during market downturns or financial stress can sabotage otherwise solid plans. The episode offers practical tools for slowing down emotional reactions, identifying what feelings are trying to communicate, and responding with intention rather than panic. Episode Highlights: Dr. Matt explains that emotions drive thoughts and behaviors, making it essential to pay attention to the feelings behind financial actions. (03:03) Dr. Matt clarifies that people tend to treat emotions as facts rather than signals worth examining. (04:44) Dr. Matt shares that emotions are good data points but not directives. (06:05) Erik recalls choosing to validate clients' fear during a market crisis rather than dismissing it with "don't panic." (07:52) Dr. Matt recounts calling Erik during a market drop and how Erik's grounding in market history helped calm his fear. (09:00) Erik discusses how social media and financial content creators trigger emotional responses that push people toward decisions inconsistent with their values. (10:48) Dr. Matt explains that financial fear often points to a deeper concern such as "Will I have enough?" rather than surface-level market activity. (14:24) Erik emphasizes that emotions have legitimacy and decisions should align with what matters most rather than being hijacked by emotion. (15:31) Dr. Matt recommends using an emotions wheel to name feelings precisely, which slows reactive thinking. (17:07) Erik believes that talking through high-stakes emotional moments with a professional, whether a therapist or financial planner, is especially valuable. (19:01) Key Quotes: “Emotions are good data but they're not directives. They're not marching orders.” - Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT “Let's make sure that we make a good decision that's consistent with the things that are most important to you.” - Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ “We think about feelings as being signals that something is really important to you. And then we want to be able to connect that to the thing that's really important.” - Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT Resources Mentioned: Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT Matt Morris & Associates Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    20 mins
  • Mindset: Your Financial Beliefs Driving Your Financial Decisions

    Mindset: Your Financial Beliefs Driving Your Financial Decisions
    Jun 2 2026
    In the opening episode of The Psychology of Money series, Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ and Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT explore one of the most overlooked drivers of financial success: mindset. Long before people learn how to invest, budget, or build wealth, they develop internal “money scripts” — subconscious beliefs shaped by childhood experiences, family dynamics, culture, and personal history. Together, Erik and Matt unpack how these invisible beliefs influence everything from spending habits and lifestyle expectations to fear, scarcity, ambition, and financial anxiety. Through relatable stories, humor, and real-world examples, they explain why wealth-building is often less about intelligence and more about the mental filters through which we interpret money. The episode challenges listeners to begin identifying the stories they carry about money — and whether those stories are helping or hurting their future. Episode Highlights: Erik explains how mindset functions as a constant background filter for the way people think about and approach money. (03:00) Dr. Matt discusses how scarcity mindset surfaces in couples when partners feel they will never have enough or get ahead. (08:50) Building awareness and changing behavior are the keys to rewiring a money mindset. (14:40) Erik shares how the most valuable client conversations focus on mindset and behavior rather than technical financial advice. (16:50) Dr. Matt shares a starting point for exploring money scripts by reflecting on what a family communicated about money. (18:20) Key Quotes: "Building wealth, having financial success has as much to do with behavior, with managing emotions, all that psychology stuff than it does with the technical stuff about money" - Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ "There's a script running in the background. We don't just act rationally with money. We are acting out a story about our beliefs about money." - Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT "We're using mindset and script synonymously, so take time to understand your money scripts. They probably came from your family of origin, so take some time. If you have a spouse, take some time to understand theirs also." - Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT Resources Mentioned: Dr. Matt Morris, LMFT Matt Morris & Associates Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    22 mins
  • Episode 109: Time, Compounding, and the Truth About Building Wealth

    Episode 109: Time, Compounding, and the Truth About Building Wealth
    May 21 2026
    In this episode, Erik P. Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™, and Xavier J. Angel, CFP®, ChFC®, unpack a misunderstood truth about building wealth: real wealth takes time. Picking up from their earlier conversations on discipline, behavior, and consistency, they dive into the power of compounding—not just financially, but professionally and personally as well. Through stories, analogies, and practical examples, they challenge the myth that wealth is built overnight and instead show how patience, endurance, and staying invested are what truly create long-term success. From the famous “penny doubled every day” example to lessons about career growth, relationships, and reputation, this conversation highlights how the biggest rewards often come after years of unseen work. Erik and Xavier explain why consistency matters more than quick wins, why emotional discipline is critical during slow seasons, and how time rewards those willing to stay in the game. Whether you’re building financial wealth, developing skills, or growing a business, this episode is a reminder that compounding doesn’t reward urgency—it rewards endurance. Episode Highlights: Xavier frames time as the series' "final ingredient," the force that turns discipline into stability and consistency into growth. (01:45) Erik discusses compound interest as one of the most powerful forces in finance, noting that every Stuff About Money guest asked what they wish they'd known sooner points to the same answer. (05:20) Erik explains the penny-doubling example, showing how a single cent doubled every day for 30 days compounds into more than five million dollars. (08:24) Xavier discusses career compounding, a form of growth driven not by money but by skills and experiences that stack into advantages over time. (12:26) Xavier shares the principle he stresses to his mentees: always be mindful of the person next to you, because you never know when they'll be in a position to help. (18:54) Erik wraps the series by revisiting the three wealth-building myths and landing on the real formula: avoid bad behaviors, cultivate good ones, and do both consistently enough for long enough. (22:23) Key Quotes: “Time is what turns discipline into stability and consistency into growth.” - Xavier J. Angel, CFP®, ChFC® “You never know who you're going to meet and when they may be able to help you or when they give you an opportunity. So always be mindful of that person next to you.” - Xavier J. Angel, CFP®, ChFC® “Compounding doesn't reward urgency. It rewards endurance. By definition, compounding rewards those who stay in the game long enough.” - Erik P. Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™ Resources Mentioned: Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    26 mins
  • Episode 108: Consistency: The Hidden Engine of Wealth

    Episode 108: Consistency: The Hidden Engine of Wealth
    May 5 2026
    In this third episode of the series, Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Xavier Angel, CFP®, uncover what they call the hidden engine behind wealth: consistency. After breaking down the behaviors that destroy wealth and the ones that protect it, this episode answers the real question—what actually builds it. The answer isn’t intensity, timing, or even talent. It’s doing the right things over and over again, long after the excitement fades. As Erik puts it, most people don’t fail financially because they’re wrong—they fail because they stop. Drawing on Angela Duckworth’s research on grit, Erik and Xavier connect the dots between perseverance and financial success. They break down the three key areas where consistency shows up: saving, investing, and developing your skills. Along the way, they challenge common behaviors like present bias and emotional investing, while reinforcing a simple truth—wealth is built little by little. This episode is a reminder that showing up when it’s boring isn’t a weakness…it’s a competitive advantage. Episode Highlights: Erik introduces consistency as the hidden engine behind wealth building and why it matters more than talent or intensity. (03:36) Erik shares Angela Duckworth's grit research, revealing that it's the grittiest individuals, not the most talented or intelligent, who tend to succeed long-term. (05:24) Xavier connects the grit conversation to his daughter's four-year journey in competitive dance, crediting her growth to determination and grind over raw talent. (07:49) Erik uses the "plateau of latent potential" from Atomic Habits to show how consistent, unseen effort eventually compounds into visible results. (09:52) Xavier explains how consistent savers reverse the urge to spend now and save later by choosing to save first. (12:25) Erik discusses how dollar cost averaging and emotional discipline set 401k millionaires apart. (14:15) Erik explains how building expertise over time enables higher-level work and greater income potential. (17:03) Xavier reflects on the power of grinding it out, noting that those who stay in the game longer do so by learning from failures and redefining their approach along the way. (20:25) Erik cites Proverbs to reinforce that money made quickly disappears, while wealth gathered little by little grows and endures. (21:32) Xavier connects consistency to momentum, saying the magic happens when you hold the fire to it and keep showing up. (23:38) Erik encourages listeners to make consistent financial decisions that stack over time, because wealth gained little by little is what lasts. (24:38) Key Quotes: “In the context of money, most people are not failing because they don't know what to do. They're failing because they don't do it long enough.” - Erik Garcia, CFP® “You are failing along the way and you're learning from those failures and redefining what you're doing.” - Xavier Angel, CFP® “What's important is that wealth builders consistently build their base. They're consistently building their foundation.” - Erik Garcia, CFP® Resources Mentioned: Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    26 mins
  • Episode 107: 3 Behaviors That Protect Your Wealth: The Disciplines That Keep You From Losing What You’ve Built

    Episode 107: 3 Behaviors That Protect Your Wealth: The Disciplines That Keep You From Losing What You’ve Built
    Apr 21 2026
    In the last episode, we broke down the behaviors that quietly destroy wealth—emotional decisions, lifestyle creep, and overconfidence. But avoiding mistakes is only half the equation. In this episode, Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Xavier Angel, CFP®, flip the conversation and focus on what actually protects wealth once you start building it. Because wealth isn’t just created—it has to be preserved with intention. We walk through three foundational disciplines: living below your means to create margin, reinvesting instead of extracting to keep your money working, and avoiding catastrophic mistakes that can undo years of progress. Grounded in behavioral finance and real-world experience, this episode shows why wealth is often less about big wins—and more about consistently doing the right things over time. Episode Highlights: Erik explains the behavioral economics foundation of today's episode, referencing Richard Thaler's book "Misbehaving" to highlight how humans often act irrationally in financial decision-making. (04:14) Xavier explains how building financial margin is what creates the space to save, invest, and pursue what matters most. (07:14) Erik shares the single most consistent pattern across people who successfully build wealth: they spend less than they earn and make building margin their priority. (10:10) Xavier discusses the second behavior, reinvesting instead of extracting, explaining that wealth grows when money is kept in the system and put back to work rather than pulled out early. (13:44) Erik explains the third behavior, avoiding catastrophic mistakes, using a golf analogy to share why minimizing financial damage matters more than chasing perfect results. (19:08) Erik discusses specific strategies for avoiding catastrophic financial mistakes: managing risk at the right level, maintaining sufficient liquidity, and diversifying rather than concentrating in speculative assets. (22:04) Xavier shares a sharp contrast between wealth lost and wealth built, explaining that losses often trace back to one risky decision while lasting wealth comes from thousands of small, consistent good ones. (25:25) Key Quotes: “When building wealth, the goal isn't to look wealthy, right? The goal is to be wealthy. I can be wealthy and not own the most expensive clothes or the biggest house or the most expensive car.” - Xavier Angel, CFP® “This is the common thread in financially successful people. It's what allows everything else to work. Without financial margin, there's nothing to invest. Nothing to save, no money to compound.” - Erik Garcia, CFP® “Reinvesting, not spending your investments involves an intentional, purposeful, conscious decision to choose the future over today. I'm saying no to myself today because I'm saying yes to something tomorrow” - Erik Garcia, CFP® Resources Mentioned: Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    28 mins
  • Episode 106: Before You Build Wealth… Stop Destroying It: The 3 Behaviors That Sabotage Your Financial Future (Part 1 of 4)

    Episode 106: Before You Build Wealth… Stop Destroying It: The 3 Behaviors That Sabotage Your Financial Future (Part 1 of 4)
    Apr 7 2026
    Before you can build wealth, you have to stop destroying it. Nobel Prize-winning economist Richard Thaler said it best: “People don’t act rationally.” And when it comes to money, that shows up in ways that quietly cost us more than we realize. In this episode, Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Xavier Angel, CFP®, break down three wealth-destroying behaviors—emotional decisions, lifestyle creep, and overconfidence. These aren’t knowledge problems—they’re behavior problems. And over time, they compound in the wrong direction. This is Part 1 of a 4-part series to help you stop losing… and start building. Episode Highlights: Erik discusses that behavior, not market drops, is the biggest obstacle to building wealth, grounding the discussion in Richard Thaler's Nobel Prize-winning behavioral finance research. (02:56) Erik shares about a client who moved to cash during market volatility and ended up as the only negative portfolio that year, using it to show how emotional reactions impact returns. (06:39) Xavier explains lifestyle creep and how spending that rises faster than income eliminates the margin needed to build wealth. (10:51) Xavier mentions that inflation, not lifestyle choices, is forcing some listeners into tighter margins and asks what to do when spending rises without any upgrade in lifestyle. (15:17) Erik introduces overconfidence as the third wealth-killing behavior, noting people consistently overestimate their ability to time markets and spot opportunities. (18:21) Xavier connects bad financial behaviors to generational patterns, pointing out that children observe and absorb those habits into their own lives. (24:03) Erik closes with the heart of their practice philosophy: understanding how people think about money is just as important as knowing how to grow it. (26:26) Key Quotes: “You don't need to save as much today as you were yesterday because you can always come back and reevaluate it at a different time when the season is over and begin increasing those savings at a later date.” - Xavier Angel, CFP®, “The best way for us to help you be successful is to understand how you think about money.” - Erik Garcia, CFP® Resources Mentioned: Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    29 mins
  • Episode 105: Beyond the Salary: Real Money Decisions for New Pharmacists

    Episode 105: Beyond the Salary: Real Money Decisions for New Pharmacists
    Mar 26 2026
    Landing that first job feels like the finish line, but for most young professionals, it is really just the beginning. In this episode, Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC®, CLTC®, sits down with Christopher Bland, PharmD, FCCP, FIDSA, BCPS, Albert W. Jowdy Professor in Pharmacy Care at the University of Georgia College of Pharmacy, to unpack the real-world financial questions that pharmacists and other graduates face early in their careers. From understanding compensation packages to negotiating pay, evaluating retirement benefits, and using side income strategically, this conversation helps listeners look beyond the headline salary number and make more informed financial decisions from day one. The episode also dives into one of the biggest mindset shifts young earners need to make: high income does not equal wealth. Chris and Xavier discuss how lifestyle inflation, student debt, and poor planning can quietly eat away at even a strong paycheck, while time, discipline, and consistent investing can build real financial freedom over time. It’s a practical, honest conversation designed to help young professionals turn early career income into long-term opportunity. Episode Highlights: Christopher shares the one financial lesson he wished he had fully embraced coming out of school: the more time money has to compound, the more profound the long-term impact. (04:00) Christopher breaks down salary versus hourly pay for new pharmacists, noting how hourly work creates flexibility to earn overtime, shift differentials, and supplemental income. (09:07) Christopher recounts landing his first job at the lowest pay tier and explains why the beginning of a career is the most powerful moment to negotiate compensation. (14:54) Christopher encourages students to lean on faculty and mentors for career opportunities, sharing how he connects students with prospects through his own network. (20:09) Xavier explains the difference between Traditional and Roth 401k contributions and stresses the importance of adding a beneficiary to retirement accounts from day one. (25:52) Christopher uses his son's first paycheck experience to illustrate why new earners need an automated plan for their money from the start. (31:32) Christopher outlines three practical steps for young pharmacists: leverage time for investing, negotiate confidently, and evaluate every aspect of a job beyond salary. (38:26) Key Quotes: “As you are young in your career, be developing skills. Seek out these opportunities, network, because then things will begin to flow to you, especially in years, like three to five.” - Christopher Bland, PharmD, FCCP, FIDSA, BCPS “No matter what degree of money you're making, if you have a plan, you're automatically giving yourself a raise.” - Christopher Bland, PharmD, FCCP, FIDSA, BCPS “I want healthcare professionals, pharmacists, to really take ownership of this topic. We work too hard. You've gone to school for too long, to not have a plan for financial freedom and wealth long term.” - Christopher Bland, PharmD, FCCP, FIDSA, BCPS Resources Mentioned: Christopher Bland, PharmD, FCCP, FIDSA, BCPS University of Georgia College of Pharmacy Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    42 mins
  • Episode 104: Normal Returns, Broader Markets, Sexy Bonds and Lasagna With Phil Blancato

    Episode 104: Normal Returns, Broader Markets, Sexy Bonds and Lasagna With Phil Blancato
    Mar 10 2026
    Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™, welcomes back Phil Blancato for their annual market conversation, now a tradition on Stuff About Money They Didn't Teach You In School. Phil is Chief Market Strategist at Osaic Wealth, a regular on Fox Business, and an experienced portfolio manager who brings equal parts insight and humor, including a lightning round that somehow turns the 2026 market into a lasagna and ends with a debate on why pasta made in Italy is superior. Phil’s core headline for 2026 is a return to more normal market behavior: broader participation beyond a handful of mega-cap names and more average equity returns than the outsized gains investors have gotten used to. They unpack what a "defining year" for AI actually means, including winners, losers, and the infrastructure and energy needed to power the buildout, plus how productivity gains could change work and life. The conversation also hits international’s resurgence, why bonds are "sexy" again, and the discipline of staying invested through scary headlines. Phil closes with what keeps him up at night, with debt and renewed inflation risk at the top, and a reminder that diversification is the plan when market leadership shifts. Episode Highlights: Phil explains how treating colleagues and clients as friends and family has made a 35-year career feel like he's never worked a day in his life. (02:05) Phil's one headline for 2026: a return to normal market returns with broader participation across sectors. (08:00) Phil uses "Flippy the fryer," an AI arm completing 200,000 man hours at White Castle, to illustrate real-world AI productivity gains. (15:05) Phil emphasizes Finance 101: never panic based on headlines, as US economic fundamentals remain strong beneath the noise. (20:00) Erik highlights his favorite chart showing intra-year drawdowns versus final returns, making the case for staying invested through volatility. (26:28) Phil believes that AI overdependence is dangerous, pointing to GPS reliance and the Pope's ban on AI-written sermons as cautionary examples. (31:00) Phil identifies rising inflation and the US debt burden as his top black swan risks for markets. (39:25) Erik reflects on using AI-driven productivity for leisure, coaching basketball, and spending more time doing what matters most. (45:45) Key Quotes: “It's a defining year for AI. What companies can either continue to grow revenue or use AI to be more productive.” - Phil Blancato “I would say I've always been a big fan of why people like me are successful. We take advantage of when there's a panic in markets, and there's a panic in a software market right now.” - Phil Blancato “Being paid to wait around. You're getting real return, real income in your portfolio. It gives you safety and security and maybe a chance to see them go up as much as 7% or 8% this year.” - Phil Blancato Resources Mentioned: Phil Blancato Osaic Wealth Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors
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    48 mins