Austrailian trainer and legend Caleb Degen joins the Podcast crew for what might be our most high-octane episode yet. We dive deep into liberty horsemanship, training philosophy, and the often misunderstood conversation around negative reinforcement vs positive reinforcement.

Caleb shares stories from his life, his training journey, and what it takes to build real connection and trust with horses. From the Australian Outback Spectacular to eagles, dogs, helicopters and everything in between — this episode goes completely off the rails in the best possible way.

We also recorded this the morning after Badmintonn Horse Trials… so Simon is running on fumes, which somehow makes the episode even better.

Packed with laughs, honest conversations, horse training gold, and pure chaos — this is one you don’t want to miss.

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• (00:00:00) - Simon on the Shower Ride
• (00:01:02) - Simi's Badminton Triumph
• (00:04:13) - Caleb Reveals How He Got Into Horse Training
• (00:07:01) - I Do Strange Stuff With Horses
• (00:11:56) - What is your greatest passion in riding and training horses?
• (00:14:06) - Simon Cowell on The Liberty Horse
• (00:18:41) - Criticising Yourself on the Horse
• (00:20:27) - Simon on His Mistake
• (00:23:59) - How to Fail
• (00:24:35) - How to Fix Your Mind
• (00:26:00) - How To Get Out Of A Tired Cycle
• (00:28:33) - Liberty on the Horse
• (00:33:40) - Caleb on Negative Reinforcement Training
• (00:38:05) - Positive Reinforcement vs Negative Reaction Training
• (00:43:18) - The future of equestrian training
• (00:45:35) - Ben on His Horses
• (00:49:41) - Simon Cowell On His Horse
• (00:52:38) - Jonas on His Second Job
• (00:56:39) - Go For It!
• (00:58:53) - Simon on His Hidden Talent
• (01:00:17) - Caleb At A Talent Show
• (01:01:57) - Caleb On The Liberty Horses
• (01:04:01) - What Annoyed You Most About Cyclists
• (01:08:36) - The Ridiculous Things That Annoy Me
• (01:11:47) - Caleb On His Australian Tour
• (01:13:08) - Caleb the Singing Dog

This week on the Shut Up & Ride podcast, Simon, Ben, and Jenny unpack all the drama, chaos, and unforgettable moments from this year’s Badminton Horse Trials.

From Simon questioning whether the grassroots course was secretly a five-star track, to Ben surviving his very first Badminton experience (while accidentally causing absolute mayhem on the cross-country course), there’s plenty of laughter and behind-the-scenes stories from one of the biggest events in the equestrian calendar.

Jenny is back on presenting duties and quickly discovers that apparently anyone with a microphone and a blazer gets mistaken for Clare Balding. Add in eventing gossip, memorable fan encounters, and a few questionable decisions along the way, and you’ve got an episode full of classic Badminton madness.

Whether you were there in person or watching from home, this is your unofficial debrief from a weekend at Badminton Horse Trials you definitely won’t forget.

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• (00:00:09) - Simon At Badminton
• (00:02:54) - Badminton for Simon Grief
• (00:06:51) - Simon On Being Hypnotized
• (00:10:53) - Simon on His HRT Journey
• (00:16:03) - Simon Grieve
• (00:20:08) - Simon Cowell's First Horse Test
• (00:23:30) - Ben on the Badminton
• (00:27:46) - The Lorraine Interview
• (00:28:34) - The Dressage Event
• (00:32:19) - Simon Green's six-course walk
• (00:33:09) - Ben Got To Meet His Horse Fan Girl
• (00:34:08) - Simon at Super Cross Country
• (00:36:18) - Ginny Elliott at the Horse Trials
• (00:39:25) - An Old Lorna Clark Turns Up at the Badminton
• (00:42:11) - Ben's Cross Country Morning
• (00:42:26) - The Big Day
• (00:49:22) - Harry's first clear round Badminton
• (00:54:09) - Simon on the Horse
• (00:58:13) - Buster's first ever cross country
• (01:03:09) - Jumping my first horse since ACL surgery
• (01:08:02) - The Horse Show:
• (01:11:07) - Simon Cowell on The Big Event
• (01:15:33) - Simon's Voice
• (01:17:07) - Simon Grieve
• (01:19:24) - Harry Mead at the Horse Trials
• (01:23:04) - Simi Goes Around the Course
• (01:23:40) - Jenny Talking To A Corgi
• (01:27:06) - "That's not acceptable!"
• (01:29:18) - Simon on the negativity on social media
• (01:36:46) - Simon's Dressage

Live from the lake at the legendary Badminton Horse Trials, the Shut Up and Ride Podcast team are back together for one of the funniest episodes yet — and this time, they’ve brought Olympic gold medallist Laura Collett along for the ride.

With a HUGE crowd gathered lakeside, the gang dive into the madness, magic, and mayhem of one of the biggest weeks in eventing. Simon is in full competition mode as he takes on Badminton himself, while Ben experiences his very first 5* event — and quickly discovers there’s absolutely nothing normal about it.

From behind-the-scenes stories and Badminton chaos to Laura’s top-level insights and plenty of questionable banter, this episode has everything: laughs, nerves, crowd heckling, and the unmistakable atmosphere of eventing’s greatest stage.

Recorded live by the lake. Loud, unpredictable, and completely unfiltered.

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This week on Shut Up and Ride, the gang is one man down as Ben swans off to rub shoulders (and apparently more) with Hollywood’s finest—but fear not, because Jenny and Simon more than pick up the slack.

Jenny is in full storytelling mode, diving into the electric atmosphere of the World Cup and the emotional high of watching Becky Moody deliver a truly unforgettable performance. It’s goosebumps, tears, and top-tier sport… swiftly followed by one of the most hilariously awkward moments you’ll ever hear, involving none other than Lady A. Yes, it’s as cringey as it sounds—and then some.

Meanwhile, Simon is deep in Badminton prep—and it’s all coming together. From training rides to final tweaks, he’s feeling focused, confident, and quietly excited as everything starts to click into place ahead of the big event.

No Ben, no filter, and absolutely no holding back—just the way you like it.

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• (00:00:00) - He's off filming with Hollywood celebs
• (00:02:31) - What's Annoying You About The Podcast?
• (00:03:50) - Cobs go to the Eventing
• (00:05:22) - Peppa the Collie Puppies
• (00:06:55) - I was there to watch Becky Moody win the World Cup
• (00:12:21) - One Horse's Love For His Trainer
• (00:12:47) - Patrick Kittle on Becky's Dressage
• (00:16:49) - Jaeger Bomb On Becky Moody's Night Out
• (00:20:33) - Richard Vogel and Kent Farrington
• (00:23:09) - Riding in the US
• (00:27:05) - Harry and Tom McEwen on Kentucky
• (00:29:02) - Badminton
• (00:29:53) - Lucky 11 at the Burley Horse Trials
• (00:33:37) - The Strictly Come Dancing
• (00:35:38) - Heading into the Badminton
• (00:37:33) - Breakdown recovery on the horse
• (00:41:40) - Celebrities Get Their Expenses Paid Back
• (00:45:05) - I Had A Very Embarrassing Moment With Laura Kraut
• (00:48:51) - Jenny Moodle At The One Tree Hill Band
• (00:50:32) - Richard Branson on Moving to Canada
• (00:53:16) - "What's Annoying You?"
• (00:58:35) - "It's a waste of money to buy a World Cup souven
• (00:59:30) - No Phone on a Horse at an Event
• (01:02:53) - "This is the worst shout out in history!"
• (01:06:13) - Harry Styles' Eventing Outfit Advice

The crew is back—and this time, they’re not holding anything back.

In the latest episode of Shut Up and Ride, the full team reunites in the studio, joined by special guest Charles Owen, to dig into one of the biggest talking points in the industry right now: the recent factory closure that’s been surrounded by speculation, half-truths, and plenty of rumors.

Together, they cut through the noise and get to the heart of what really happened. From insider perspectives to hard questions that others won’t ask, this episode goes beyond headlines to explore the real impact on workers, riders, and the future of the scene.

Expect honest opinions, lots of hilarious moments, and the kind of unfiltered conversation you’ve come to expect.

If you’ve heard the rumors—this is the episode you need to hear.

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• (00:00:12) - Shut Up & Ride
• (00:04:02) - Charles Owen: Get the Pirate Hat
• (00:08:05) - Badminton star's exciting news
• (00:09:02) - How will Buster find Badminton?
• (00:14:03) - "I've spent my life keeping people happy"
• (00:14:54) - Badminton Podcast
• (00:17:03) - Charles Owen on the Badminton
• (00:23:50) - Charles Owen Hats: Will the UK manufacturing continue?
• (00:27:39) - Charles Owen Helmets
• (00:34:24) - Charles Owen Helmets
• (00:39:53) - Dial Fit Helmets
• (00:45:33) - I Fall Off A Horse
• (00:47:53) - Cyclist breaks five ribs in serious accident
• (00:54:03) - Ben on His Ribs
• (00:56:07) - What's Annoying You?
• (00:59:10) - Seniors rail cards
• (01:01:10) - Talking To A Sponsored Rider
• (01:02:58) - What's Annoying About The New Peaky Blinders Film
• (01:05:10) - Tell the Story that You Saw Niall in the Air
• (01:05:50) - George Clooney on Karaoke
• (01:10:23) - Karaoke Songs For Drunk People
• (01:14:03) - A Pet for the Cat
• (01:15:25) - Simon on the Podcast Tour
• (01:16:51) - Charles Owen's Last Ride

This week on Shut Up and Ride, Ben, Simon, and Jenny are all back in the saddle for an episode that goes everywhere…

We dive headfirst into the latest chaos in the horse world —the good, the bad, and the downright baffling. Jenny brings her weekly rant (and no, it’s NOT about corgis this time…). Beagles have entered the chat, and honestly, they’re not safe.

Meanwhile, we somehow end up discussing the Manosphere (yes, really) and Louis Theroux—because why not mix horses with existential documentaries?

Simon shares his latest ambitions of treading the boards and becoming a full-blown actor (watch this space…), while Ben updates us on his ongoing horse-related antics—which may or may not involve questionable decision-making.

And of course, we take a nostalgic detour into our own ridiculous youth stories… some things are better left in the past, but we’re sharing them anyway

Expect laughs, chaos, strong opinions, and absolutely no clear answers to the big question: is it a horse… or is it a dolphin?

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• (00:00:09) - Shut Up A Ride
• (00:00:41) - George and Wild Get A Haircut
• (00:03:10) - Barber Set Fire To His Ear Hair
• (00:04:37) - Does It Get Rid of Talking About Horses?
• (00:09:22) - Read Your Face Off
• (00:09:35) - Billy Liah in the Children's Poem
• (00:11:06) - The Horse Training Course
• (00:15:24) - The Tell Me A Story
• (00:19:54) - Reveal: Being a Full Boarder
• (00:24:30) - George's first horse ride
• (00:27:02) - Wild the Pony on 24 Hours In AE
• (00:30:14) - Don't Let My Horse Have Outdoor Treatment
• (00:35:09) - Richard Hammond on Horses
• (00:38:46) - Cost of a Horse's Surgery
• (00:42:56) - Oh, My God
• (00:43:12) - My Husband Can't Tell How Much He's Drunk
• (00:47:38) - Simon Says He's Drunk Enough For Me
• (00:51:06) - Chanderer
• (00:52:31) - British Dressage: Voice Assist
• (00:56:13) - Not All Voice Use in Dressage
• (01:02:07) - Don't Hit the Horse
• (01:06:31) - How to deal with a child in the street
• (01:07:49) - What Annoyed Me
• (01:12:41) - What's annoyed me this week
• (01:14:23) - Beagle Is The Worst Dog To Own
• (01:18:57) - The Inventor In The Manosphere
• (01:21:34) - Louis CK on Horse Welfare
• (01:27:37) - Louis Theroux on the Louis Vuitton Case
• (01:31:29) - Louis CK on His 'No More'
• (01:33:32) - Louise Newson on The Louise Podcast
• (01:36:48) - Simi on Her Horse Trials
• (01:37:12) - Benji on His Tour
• (01:38:14) - Boskoe Boy's

️Simon and Jenny sit down with brilliant course designer Helen West for a fascinating chat about life behind the scenes of cross-country course design.

From working in a traditionally male-dominated world to the reality that designing a course is a bit more complicated than just sticking a few logs in a field, Helen shares what really goes into building tracks that challenge riders while keeping horses safe.

We also talk about the fence involved in the tragic fall that claimed the life of rider Georgie Campbell — and Helen explains the thinking behind fence design and whether there was anything wrong with that particular obstacle.

Simon reflects on the risks in the sport and how understanding them shouldn’t take away from people’s enjoyment of eventing.

If you’re heading out eventing this season, this episode is packed full of advice — plus some of Helen’s course-walking pet peeves

And of course, we also find out how Helen and Jenny became friends… over a couple of piña coladas!

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• (00:00:00) - Shut Up And Ride
• (00:01:41) - Helen West on Eventing Podcast
• (00:02:36) - Helen's first ever dressage
• (00:07:19) - Tom Felton on His Double Clear at Burley
• (00:09:03) - Lucinda Green on her Badminton
• (00:15:12) - "Mentorship is important in our riding career"
• (00:18:22) - Helen West on Becoming a Courses Designer
• (00:23:52) - The job that nearly killed me
• (00:28:32) - Riding at a High Level
• (00:30:48) - riding eventing
• (00:31:09) - Course Designers
• (00:36:37) - on the design process
• (00:38:46) - Katie Jones on the FEI
• (00:42:34) - Simon Greave at the Olympics
• (00:46:59) - The Georgie Campbell Crash
• (00:52:47) - Does Frangible Fences Encourage Dangerous Riding?
• (00:59:43) - Simon on Georgie's Passing
• (01:04:22) - When You Ran Your Husband On The Phone Too Much
• (01:05:00) - I hate walking the course
• (01:07:58) - Gut Feelings on the Horse
• (01:12:20) - Walking the distances in show jumping
• (01:13:40) - Bicton Horse Trials 2020
• (01:15:39) - The Shetland Pony Grand National
• (01:17:35) - Simon and Helen on Course Design
• (01:21:14) - Anger In The Elevator
• (01:23:00) - Badminton Horse Trials
• (01:26:45) - Helen's first ever race

Yes. That’s the episode title. No, we won’t explain it here.

In the latest episode of Shut Up and Ride, Simon and I answer your questions — from who we actually follow on Instagram, to how Simon somehow ended up being compared to… well… an Australian fireman holding a kitten.

We also revisit Jenny's ski “career.” And by career, we mean a series of unfortunate sliding incidents that absolutely nobody asked for but everyone seems to enjoy.

But in between the chaos, we take a moment to pause and pay tribute to two extraordinary horses who recently passed — Sam, the legendary partner of Michael Jung, and Mr Bass, longtime partner of Laura Collett.

These horses weren’t just medal winners. They were teammates, teachers, and once-in-a-lifetime partners. The kind that shape careers and leave a mark on the entire sport.

It’s an episode full of laughter, listener questions, mild self-destruction… and a heartfelt salute to two greats.

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• (00:00:12) - Shop Ride: Well-Well Baby Wild
• (00:00:39) - Simon's Fearless Skiing
• (00:03:38) - Ski instructor on learning to ski again
• (00:07:13) - Simon on Skiing
• (00:10:07) - Hiking the highest mountain in Switzerland
• (00:15:02) - Michael Young's Horse Sam Has Passed
• (00:19:21) - Horse Passing
• (00:20:07) - Laura Collins Remembering Mr. Bass
• (00:21:34) - Simon Greave at Horses Inside Out
• (00:24:26) - I announced the winners of awards by mistake
• (00:29:19) - What Really Happened In The Putney Car Crash
• (00:32:07) - What's Your Favorite Thing To Do When You're Alone?
• (00:34:50) - Simon the Horse Has No Job
• (00:38:23) - Best Advice For Buying Your First Horse
• (00:43:38) - Matilda the Baby's First Birthday
• (00:44:18) - Best presents for a baby
• (00:45:23) - The Beast from the East
• (00:47:24) - Mr. Greaves on His Death
• (00:50:29) - Good News! Sea Otters Return from Near Extinction
• (00:52:14) - Rosie Russell Has A Pet Pet Peeve
• (00:56:23) - Mary and Lauren on the Podcast
• (00:56:38) - Harry and the Mini ponies
• (00:57:36) - 7 Pet Peeves For The Weather
• (00:58:46) - Bikers Try Women's Underpants
• (01:01:07) - Pee in a Jar
• (01:01:36) - What Superpower Would You Have?
• (01:04:45) - Simon Has A Horrible Haircut
• (01:05:32) - Simon on His Lessons
• (01:08:13) - Simon Grieve: Never Guess What's Annoying Me This
• (01:12:08) - Don't Drive A Car