Episodes

  • Multiple Selves, Meditation Music & Midlife Reinvention: Sophie Bickerdike’s Second Verse
    Feb 3 2026

    Embracing Multiple Selves: A Journey into Music with Sophie Bickerdike

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland welcomes Sophie Bickerdike, an indie artist who shares her journey of exploring multiple musical identities under different names. Sophie talks about how she started creating music out of necessity during COVID for her yoga studio and evolved into producing meditative tracks, healing frequencies, and experimental sounds. She discusses the challenges of coming to music later in life, the joy of playful experimentation, and the power of finishing small projects. Sophie's story is an inspiring reminder that it's never too late to start a new creative journey.

    https://youtu.be/Qze1Cxw-jNY

    Connect with Sophie Bickerdike:

    1. Web: www.lunalightmusiclabel.com
    2. Facebook: www.facebook.com/sophiebickerdikemusic
    3. Instagram: www.instagram.com/sophiebickerdikemusic
    4. Bandcamp: https://lunalightmusic.bandcamp.com

    Mentioned in the Episode:

    1. Dr. Masaru Emoto: How Emotion Influences Water: https://bornastheearth.com/dr-masaru-emoto/
    2. Masaru Emoto Water Experiments: https://youtu.be/1qQUFvufXp4
    3. Life by XLN Audio: https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/life
    4. Talent Is Timeless Community: https://www.talentistimeless.com/

    Sponsors:

    1. Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    2. Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Featured Song:

    1. ”528Hz Manifest Miracles - Angelic Extended Mix” by LunaLight & Sophia Bickerdike, written by Sophia Bickerdike (used with permission). All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    1. 00:00 Episode Teaser: Sophie Bickerdike Interview
    2. 00:32 Introduction
    3. 01:59 Welcome to Sophie and Early Musical Influences
    4. 03:02 Journey into...
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    50 mins
  • When Creativity Finds You: Adriana Douglas on Reinvention, Nashville, and "The Artist’s Way"
    Jan 27 2026

    Embracing Creative Renewal: Adriana Douglas' Journey from Corporate to Artistry

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland welcomes music artist and creative guide Adriana Douglas, who shares her inspiring journey from a decade-long corporate career to rediscovering her childhood dream of becoming a singer. Adriana discusses the pivotal moment when she embraced her artistic identity, the impact of Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way in unlocking her creativity, and her recent move to Nashville to immerse herself in a vibrant artistic community. Along with practical advice on navigating the music industry, Adriana emphasizes the importance of aligning career choices with personal values, the necessity of community support, and the resilience required to pursue artistic dreams. Listen in for an honest, energizing conversation about the challenges and triumphs of reclaiming one's creative passion.

    https://youtu.be/CNM4a7gvBBg

    Connect with Adriana Douglas:

    1. Web: https://www.adrianadouglas.com/
    2. TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrianagdouglas
    3. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theartofadrianaa/
    4. YouTube: https://youtube.com/@adrianagdouglas
    5. Streaming: on all major platforms

    Sponsors:

    1. Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    2. Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Featured Song:

    1. ”Dressed in Labels” by Adriana Douglas, written by Jessica Taylor, Adriana Douglas (used with permission). All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    1. 00:00 Episode Teaser Clip
    2. 00:28 Episode Introduction
    3. 02:01 Welcome to Adriana
    4. 02:22 Adriana's Early Love for Music
    5. 03:55 Rediscovering Music and Creativity
    6. 05:35 The Impact of 'The Artist's Way'
    7. 09:09 Embracing Creativity in Daily Life
    8. 10:51 Moving to Nashville and New Beginnings
    9. 12:02 Navigating the Music Industry
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    57 mins
  • Wintering: How Kathi Fran Reclaimed Her Voice After Life’s Hardest Seasons
    Jan 20 2026

    Rediscovering Purpose Through Music with Kathi Fran

    In this episode of Second Verse hosted by Becky Boyland, we meet Kathi Copans, who creates under the artist name Kathi Fran. Kathi shares her inspiring journey of growing up in a musical home, navigating the ups and downs of life, and finding her way back to music and songwriting after illness and loss. This conversation covers a range of topics including the evolving definition of success, the healing power of music, and the importance of kindness in the creative community. Becky and Kathi also discuss the challenges and rewards of co-writing, the importance of authenticity in art, and how even small steps in pursuing one's passion can lead to significant personal fulfillment and impact. Tune in for an episode full of wisdom, resilience, and musical inspiration.

    https://youtu.be/EJrlJslaNro

    Connect with Kathi Fran:

    1. Instagram: @kat_rocks_13
    2. linktr.ee/kathifran

    Sponsors:

    1. Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    2. Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Featured Song:

    1. ”Wintering” by Kathi Fran, written by Kathi Fran Copans & Wilhelmina Fleur Lavinia Walter (used with permission). All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    1. 00:00 Kathi Fran Episode Teaser
    2. 00:13 Introduction
    3. 01:41 Welcome and Early Love for Music
    4. 04:32 Transition to School Teaching
    5. 07:43 Health Challenges and Rediscovery
    6. 10:13 Philosophical Reflections on Music
    7. 24:39 Creative Process and Collaborations
    8. 26:33 The Self-Promoting Artist
    9. 29:34 The Importance of Co-Writing and Community
    10. 31:35 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Attitude Creativity
    11. 32:56 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Singing / Straw
    12. 33:54 Instrumentation and Production Techniques
    13. 36:07 The Art of Using MIDI and Live Instruments
    14. 42:51 Live Performances and Open Mics
    15. 45:19 Future Plans and Dreams
    16. 49:08 Advice for Aspiring Musicians
    17. 50:42 Coda
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    56 mins
  • Finding Your Voice at 50: Joshua David Thayer on Grief, Creativity & Letting the Music Speak
    Dec 16 2025

    Joshua David Thayer: From Sideman to Solo Artist

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Joshua David Thayer, a seasoned bassist from Northampton, Massachusetts. After spending decades in supporting roles for various bands, the sudden loss of his father in 2023 inspired Josh to step into the spotlight as a solo artist at age 50. They discuss the creative process, using grief as a catalyst, and the importance of finishing projects over striving for perfection. Josh's journey is a testament to trusting the process and letting the material guide you to create honest and impactful work. Listen in as Josh shares his unique approach to music creation and the challenges of being an independent artist in 2025.

    https://youtu.be/1CMNvWBdM9s

    Connect with Joshua David Thayer:

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuadavidthayer/
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshuadavidthayer/
    • Bandcamp: https://joshuadavidthayer.bandcamp.com/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaDavidThayer
    • Website: www.joshuadavidthayer.com

    Mentioned in the episode:

    • Subvert: https://subvert.fm/
    • Rick Rubin's "The Creative Act: A Way of Being": https://sites.prh.com/thecreativeact
    • David Bowie Cut-Up Method: https://www.openculture.com/2019/05/how-david-bowie-used-william-s-burroughs-cut-up-method-to-write-his-unforgettable-lyrics.html

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    • Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Featured Song:

    • ”We Won’t Relent” by Joshua David Thayer, written by Joshua David Thayer. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser: Joshua David Thayer Interview
    • 00:28 Introduction to the Episode
    • 02:09 Welcoming Joshua David Thayer & Music Beginnings
    • 03:26 High School Band to Rock Band
    • 06:51 Early Success and Opportunities
    • 11:25 Transition to a "Traditional" Career
    • 18:19 FEATURING: Attitude Creativity
    • 19:40 FEATURING: Singing / Straw
    • 20:38 Rediscovering Music After Loss
    • 24:10 Josh's Unique Creative Process
    • 35:49 When Is the Music Ready?
    • 40:57 Challenges and Rewards of Modern Music Creation
    • 47:35 Current Projects and Future Plans
    • 55:31 How to Support Josh's Music
    • 57:35 Coda
    • 59:36 Featured Song: "We Won't Relent" by Joshua David Thayer

    Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time!

    • Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now!
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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Small Steps, Big Impact: Building Your Creative Confidence
    Nov 11 2025

    Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse Podcast

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple, consistent efforts can lead to significant progress in music careers. Becky also addresses common confidence busters, such as comparison and perfectionism, and provides practical micro habits for artists. Download her 'Creative Momentum Map' to help boost your creative journey.

    https://youtu.be/YwuJLT61-zg

    Download the Creative Momentum Map: 7 Small Actions to Reignite Your Music:

    • https://secondversepod.com/confidence

    Connect with Becky Boyland:

    • https://beckyboyland.com
    • https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
    • https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
    • https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
    • https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

    Featured Song:

    • ”You Got Me” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland and Christina Ann Casella. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
    • 01:19 Why Small Steps Matter
    • 03:31 The Confidence-Action Loop
    • 07:04 The Power of Small, Consistent Steps
    • 08:59 Overcoming Resistance and Perfectionism
    • 12:33 Building a Confidence Ecosystem
    • 14:43 Coda
    • 15:46 Featured Song: "You Got Me" by Becky Boyland

    Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

    • Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

    Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

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    19 mins
  • How to Bring Others into Your Ecosystem: Collaboration for Indie Music Artists
    Nov 4 2025

    The Power of Collaboration for Indie Artists

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the transformative power of collaboration for indie musicians. She breaks down why working together is crucial, not just in co-writing or production, but also in building community and maintaining accountability. Becky shares her own experiences and provides a step-by-step guide on how to find and foster successful creative partnerships. The episode concludes with her top six benefits of collaborating, emphasizing the importance of community and shared growth in achieving musical success. Tune in to hear inspiring stories and get practical tips to enhance your music journey.

    https://youtu.be/6t-Pftkfo6w

    Connect with Becky Boyland:

    • https://beckyboyland.com
    • https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
    • https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
    • https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
    • https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

    Sponsor:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

    Featured Song:

    • ”Ticket” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
    • 01:19 Episode Introduction
    • 03:14 The Myth of the "Solo Genius"
    • 05:03 Finding Your Collaborative Match
    • 07:46 Building Trust and Creative Chemistry
    • 10:53 Collaboration Beyond the Studio
    • 13:20  Top 6 Benefits of Collaborating as an Indie Music Artist
    • 15:04 Coda
    • 16:01 Featured Song: "Ticket" by Becky Boyland

    Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

    • Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

    Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link

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    19 mins
  • How to Build a Creative Ecosystem
    Oct 28 2025

    Building Your Creative Ecosystem: Nurturing Sustainable Artistry for Indie Musicians

    In this episode of Second Verse, hosted by Becky Boyland, indie music artists are guided on how to create and nurture a creative ecosystem that supports sustainable artistry. Sponsored by Attitude Creativity, the episode covers the importance of establishing an effective website and brand messaging. Becky emphasizes moving from clarity about one's artistic message to building a supportive environment that fosters growth. Key components include creative spaces, people, systems, and sustainability. Listeners are encouraged to develop intentional creative zones, build supportive circles, utilize structured systems, and prioritize rest in their creative journeys.

    https://youtu.be/1ja7IxIw9hU

    Connect with Becky Boyland:

    • https://beckyboyland.com
    • https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
    • https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
    • https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

    Featured Song:

    • ”Waiting for Wisdom” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Boyland & Sharon Vaughn. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
    • 01:19 Episode Introduction
    • 02:03 Why Artists Need Creative Ecosystems
    • 04:42 The Four Components of a Creative Ecosystem
    • 16:25 Why a Creative Ecosystem Matters
    • 18:09 Coda
    • 19:34 Featured Song: "Waiting for Wisdom”

    Featured Music Playlist:

    • Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

    Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link

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    23 mins
  • How to Clarify Your Message as an Artist
    Oct 21 2025

    Clarify Your Message as an Indie Artist: Practical Steps for Success

    This episode of Second Verse, sponsored by Attitude Creativity, delves into the importance of clarity for indie music artists. The host discusses how having a clear message can help artists stand out and connect with their audience, emphasizing the need for consistent brand messaging across their website and social platforms. She offers three practical steps to craft a clear message: defining a one-liner that captures the essence of their music, testing it with friends for authenticity, and consistently applying it across all platforms. The episode concludes with the host's encouraging song, “Running on Empty,” which celebrates those who support us in our lives.

    https://youtu.be/g0LtDFLgEbc

    Connect with Becky Boyland:

    • https://beckyboyland.com
    • https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
    • https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
    • https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:
    • ”Running on Empty” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 S2E6 How to Clarify Your Message as an Artist
    • 01:19 Becky's Welcome & Introduction
    • 03:05 Why Clarity Matters
    • 05:00 Common Mistakes Artists Make
    • 07:33 The Three Elements of an Artist Message
    • 14:00 Coda
    • 16:13 Three Practical Next Steps
    • 17:46 Featured Song: "Running on Empty" by Becky Boyland

    Songs from the Second Verse Podcast Playlist:

    • Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

    Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

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    21 mins