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Second Verse

Second Verse

By: Becky Boyland
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🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music. Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career. Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode dives into real-life stories of artists navigating their second verse in music—overcoming fears, finding their audience, and making their creative dreams a reality. 💡 What You’ll Get: ✅ Inspiring stories from independent musicians who took the leap ✅ Actionable tips for pursuing your music career at any stage ✅ Branding and marketing insights to grow your audience ✅ Motivation to finally take that next step toward your dream No matter where you are on your musical journey, Second Verse will help you feel seen, supported, and ready to take action. Subscribe now, leave a review, and visit secondversepod.com to submit your story, connect on social media, and start your own Second Verse. 🎶 Your dream is still waiting—let’s make music.Copyright 2025 Becky Boyland Music Personal Development Personal Success
Episodes
  • Finding Your Voice at 50: Joshua David Thayer on Grief, Creativity & Letting the Music Speak
    Dec 16 2025

    Joshua David Thayer: From Sideman to Solo Artist

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Joshua David Thayer, a seasoned bassist from Northampton, Massachusetts. After spending decades in supporting roles for various bands, the sudden loss of his father in 2023 inspired Josh to step into the spotlight as a solo artist at age 50. They discuss the creative process, using grief as a catalyst, and the importance of finishing projects over striving for perfection. Josh's journey is a testament to trusting the process and letting the material guide you to create honest and impactful work. Listen in as Josh shares his unique approach to music creation and the challenges of being an independent artist in 2025.

    https://youtu.be/1CMNvWBdM9s

    Connect with Joshua David Thayer:

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuadavidthayer/
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshuadavidthayer/
    • Bandcamp: https://joshuadavidthayer.bandcamp.com/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaDavidThayer
    • Website: www.joshuadavidthayer.com

    Mentioned in the episode:

    • Subvert: https://subvert.fm/
    • Rick Rubin's "The Creative Act: A Way of Being": https://sites.prh.com/thecreativeact
    • David Bowie Cut-Up Method: https://www.openculture.com/2019/05/how-david-bowie-used-william-s-burroughs-cut-up-method-to-write-his-unforgettable-lyrics.html

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    • Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Featured Song:

    • ”We Won’t Relent” by Joshua David Thayer, written by Joshua David Thayer. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser: Joshua David Thayer Interview
    • 00:28 Introduction to the Episode
    • 02:09 Welcoming Joshua David Thayer & Music Beginnings
    • 03:26 High School Band to Rock Band
    • 06:51 Early Success and Opportunities
    • 11:25 Transition to a "Traditional" Career
    • 18:19 FEATURING: Attitude Creativity
    • 19:40 FEATURING: Singing / Straw
    • 20:38 Rediscovering Music After Loss
    • 24:10 Josh's Unique Creative Process
    • 35:49 When Is the Music Ready?
    • 40:57 Challenges and Rewards of Modern Music Creation
    • 47:35 Current Projects and Future Plans
    • 55:31 How to Support Josh's Music
    • 57:35 Coda
    • 59:36 Featured Song: "We Won't Relent" by Joshua David Thayer

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Small Steps, Big Impact: Building Your Creative Confidence
    Nov 11 2025

    Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse Podcast

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple, consistent efforts can lead to significant progress in music careers. Becky also addresses common confidence busters, such as comparison and perfectionism, and provides practical micro habits for artists. Download her 'Creative Momentum Map' to help boost your creative journey.

    https://youtu.be/YwuJLT61-zg

    Download the Creative Momentum Map: 7 Small Actions to Reignite Your Music:

    • https://secondversepod.com/confidence

    Connect with Becky Boyland:

    • https://beckyboyland.com
    • https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
    • https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
    • https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
    • https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

    Featured Song:

    • ”You Got Me” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland and Christina Ann Casella. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
    • 01:19 Why Small Steps Matter
    • 03:31 The Confidence-Action Loop
    • 07:04 The Power of Small, Consistent Steps
    • 08:59 Overcoming Resistance and Perfectionism
    • 12:33 Building a Confidence Ecosystem
    • 14:43 Coda
    • 15:46 Featured Song: "You Got Me" by Becky Boyland

    Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

    • Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

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    19 mins
  • How to Bring Others into Your Ecosystem: Collaboration for Indie Music Artists
    Nov 4 2025

    The Power of Collaboration for Indie Artists

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the transformative power of collaboration for indie musicians. She breaks down why working together is crucial, not just in co-writing or production, but also in building community and maintaining accountability. Becky shares her own experiences and provides a step-by-step guide on how to find and foster successful creative partnerships. The episode concludes with her top six benefits of collaborating, emphasizing the importance of community and shared growth in achieving musical success. Tune in to hear inspiring stories and get practical tips to enhance your music journey.

    https://youtu.be/6t-Pftkfo6w

    Connect with Becky Boyland:

    • https://beckyboyland.com
    • https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
    • https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
    • https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
    • https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

    Sponsor:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

    Featured Song:

    • ”Ticket” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
    • 01:19 Episode Introduction
    • 03:14 The Myth of the "Solo Genius"
    • 05:03 Finding Your Collaborative Match
    • 07:46 Building Trust and Creative Chemistry
    • 10:53 Collaboration Beyond the Studio
    • 13:20  Top 6 Benefits of Collaborating as an Indie Music Artist
    • 15:04 Coda
    • 16:01 Featured Song: "Ticket" by Becky Boyland

    Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

    • Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

    Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link

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    19 mins
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