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How Work Actually Works

How Work Actually Works

By: Joe Marques with KayLee Hansen
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Work isn't supposed to feel like this. And most people know it.

How Work Actually Works is for the people ready to close the gap between what work could be and what it actually is.

Hosted by Joe Marques and KayLee Hansen, the show explores what it really takes to build cultures where people don't have to pretend, where leaders shape environments worth showing up to, and where the work itself means something.

Real stories. Honest conversations. Practical ideas to make it happen.

🎧 New episodes monthly.

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Episodes
  • Most Performance Problems Aren't People Problems | Episode 19
    Jun 16 2026

    Most leaders think a performance problem is a people problem.

    Usually it isn't. It's a clarity problem. An environment problem. A leadership problem.

    The trick is knowing which one you're staring at before you start fixing the wrong thing.

    In this episode of How Work Actually Works, Joe Marques and KayLee Hansen take performance management apart and rebuild it as something useful. Not the annual review. Not picking a number on a five-point scale and delivering it in December. The real thing underneath it: why people thrive, why they stall, and why the score was never the point.

    KayLee brings the boat. A few people pull at the front, in sync, driving the whole thing forward. Most sit in the middle, paddling part of the time, capable of more if the conditions were there. A few sit at the back doing nothing, and some are rowing the other way. Here's the catch: most leaders pour 80% of their energy into the back of the boat and assume everyone else has it handled.

    Joe pushes back on the starting point itself. How do you even know where people sit? That's your score. It isn't the truth. So they work through three lenses worth checking before you label anyone: the conditions you set, the clarity you give, and the person in the seat.

    On conditions, they get into hiring for talent instead of a resume, whether the culture actually fits the person, and why you shouldn't pretend you're Disneyland in the interview when you're not. On clarity, Joe lands the bowling test: bowling tells you what a perfect game looks like from the first frame, so why does work feel like a mystery box you don't get to open until year end? And on the person, they separate competence from commitment. Some people can't. Some people won't, and the won't is a signal you haven't earned their best yet.

    KayLee tells the story of the high performer everyone saw walking out the door, except leadership. Joe shares the leader who rewrote every performance review around each person's style, changed not one word of content, and got a wave of feedback on how thoughtful she'd been. Same scores. Better experience.

    They also share a few simple ways to lead performance like it actually matters:

    • ask the person to say success back to you, because clarity should end with a question, not a statement
    • deliver the same message differently depending on who's in front of you
    • run a retention interview with your best people before you ever need an exit interview
    • make it a rhythm of check-ins, not an annual event, and weight it toward what's working

    Because when you treat performance as a number to manage instead of a signal to read, you miss the talented person in the wrong seat, the top performer quietly burning out, and the hidden gem who's just waiting for a reason to row.

    Key Takeaways

    • Why most performance problems are really clarity, environment, or leadership problems
    • The boat, and why leaders spend 80% of their time at the back of it
    • Three lenses before you label anyone: the conditions you set, the clarity you give, the person in the seat
    • The bowling test for clarity, and why success should be obvious from the first frame
    • Competence vs. commitment, and why the won't is a signal about you
    • The three questions to ask yourself before you call anyone a performance problem

    Performance is a signal. Stop managing the score and start reading what it's pointing at.

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    40 mins
  • The Three Selves and the One Worth Bringing to Work | Episode 18
    Jun 2 2026

    Most of us don't say the real thing at work.

    We say the safe thing. The polished thing. The version that won't rock the boat.

    And the more we do it, the more the whole place starts to feel like theater.

    In this episode of How Work Actually Works, Joe Marques and KayLee Hansen take apart corporate theater: the language we hide behind every day, and the LinkedIn posts that put it on full display. All the world's a stage, Shakespeare wrote in 1599, and it still describes most workplaces. They start with the humble-brags, the four-year-old who somehow delivers profound business wisdom, and the everyday phrases we all lean on. Let's circle back. Let's take that offline. Great discussion. Sounds like we're aligned. Then they ask the harder question: why do we do it?

    The answer starts with threat. We seek safety and we feel threat, and our very old brain treats social risk the same as physical danger. Say the wrong thing and you might get left out, and somewhere deep down that still registers as a matter of survival.

    Joe and KayLee dig into the strange experiments that prove how strong this pull is: the waiting-room video where strangers stand up at a random beep for no reason at all, and the monkeys who keep enforcing a rule none of them remember learning. Every workplace runs on the same conditioning, a set of unwritten rules nobody hands you but everybody expects you to follow.

    From there they land on the heart of it: the three selves we carry. Your whole self is everything you are, and you don't bring that to work, or to most relationships. Your false self, the safe self, is the sanitized version that plays it safe and says the approved lines. Your best self sits in between: real, capable, willing to say the true thing and ask for help, edited by choice instead of fear. As KayLee puts it, the best self isn't the edited self, it's the chosen one.

    They also share a few simple ways to drop one layer of the act, starting today:

    • say the real thing one level more directly than feels comfortable
    • swap the polished statement for the plain one ("I'm at capacity and something has to give" instead of "it's been a full season")
    • ask what your best self would say here, instead of what you're trying to avoid saying

    Because the cost of all this theater isn't just awkward meetings and cringey posts. It's a culture where nobody says what actually needs saying, and the real work never gets done.

    Key Takeaways

    • Why we default to safe, sanitized language at work
    • How threat, status, and the fear of being left out keep us faking it
    • What conformity experiments reveal about everyday workplace behavior
    • The difference between your whole self, your false self, and your best self
    • Why real vulnerability is specific, and fake vulnerability is just a blanket statement
    • Simple ways to say the true thing one layer more directly

    You don't need to bring your whole self to work. You need to bring your best self. The rest is just theater.

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    44 mins
  • The 3 Coaching Questions Every Leader Should Steal | Episode 17
    May 19 2026

    Most leaders think they’re coaching.

    But too often, they’re answering faster than people can learn.

    They solve the problem. They give the answer. They step in, clean it up, and wonder why everyone keeps bringing every decision back to them.

    In this episode of How Work Actually Works, Joe Marques and KayLee Hansen talk about what coaching actually looks like in real life, not as a buzzword, not as HR wallpaper, and definitely not as “grabbing people by the face mask and telling them what to do.” Yes, that story is real.

    They break down the difference between helping people and quietly creating dependency. Joe shares why leaders should ask before they tell, why “Have you thought about…” is usually advice pretending to be a question, and how good coaching helps people discover the answer without making them feel small.

    Joe and KayLee also get into the invisible tax of over-helping, why high performers often get ignored until something goes wrong, how delegation builds trust when it happens in stages, and why silence may be one of the most underrated leadership tools you have.

    And they leave you with three questions you can use immediately:

    What are you seeing that I’m not?
    What would growing through this look like, separate from solving it?
    How can I help without taking this over?

    Key Takeaways

    • Why many leaders confuse coaching with faster problem-solving
    • How giving answers can train people to keep coming back for more
    • Why support turns into rescuing when leaders remove responsibility
    • The difference between fixing performance and growing people
    • How to delegate without dumping work on someone too soon
    • Why “tell me more” and a few seconds of silence can change the whole conversation

    Coaching is not about having the best answer. It’s about helping someone become more capable because of the conversation.

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    42 mins
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