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Frequency

Frequency

By: Chuck Gose & Jenni Field
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Frequency is where internal comms, HR, leadership and employee experience come together with lively conversation, expert insights, and plenty of friendly debate. Hosted by industry firestarters Chuck Gose and Jenni Field, this podcast tackles the big workplace challenges—from reaching frontline employees to shaping a strong company culture—all with a mix of sharp opinions, candid stories, and discussion.

Chuck and Jenni bring their unique perspectives and personalities to every episode, ensuring you get more than just the usually-tedious industry insights. Whether it’s sparking new ideas or challenging the status quo, Frequency is the conversation you didn’t know you needed.

Tune in for a weekly dose of everything you need to know about leadership, workplace culture and employee engagement.

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Episodes
  • The Hidden Cost of Empathy: Why 80% of Women Managers Are Now Unpaid Therapists
    Jul 13 2026

    This week, Chuck and Jenni dig into four stories reshaping how we think about generations, empathy, and boundaries at work: why the evidence for "generational differences" keeps failing to show up, the hidden emotional toll being carried disproportionately by women managers, new data on Britain's always-on work culture, and the ongoing debate about what business casual even means anymore.

    The conversation opens with a challenge to one of comms' most persistent assumptions. Drawing on a LinkedIn post and research roundup from Rob Briner, there is little support for the idea that Gen Z, millennials, Gen X, and boomers genuinely differ in their attitudes, needs, or communication styles. Chuck and Jenni discuss why the theory endures anyway, pointing to environment and life stage, not generation, as the real drivers of behaviour.

    From there, the conversation turns to a Business Insider piece on the hidden cost of empathy at work. The article follows several women, including an HR executive who returned from maternity leave to find herself functioning as her team's unofficial therapist, and cites Harvard Business School research showing over 80% of women managers surveyed spend at least 30% of their working week on caring tasks, nearly a full day, with 59% saying that load has grown over the past year. Chuck and Jenni talk through why this burden falls disproportionately on women, the risk of untrained managers overstepping into territory better suited to trained professionals, and what organisations should be doing to build in proper support and boundaries.

    Next, new research from HiBob puts numbers behind Britain's always-on culture, with 42% of UK workers considering quitting due to stress, 58% reporting increased pressure compared to two years ago, and over half checking work messages on holiday or within minutes of waking. Chuck shares a story about his father's first pager as a marker of when "reachable" quietly became "expected to respond," and the pair discuss whether work has always felt like this - how can we know without research from years ago?

    The episode closes on a lighter note with a Wall Street Journal piece on Gen Z redefining business casual, prompted by Jenni's own real-world sighting of some questionably casual office attire. Chuck and Jenni share sharply different takes, weighing individuality and comfort against the message clothing sends before anyone's said a word, with an assist from Jenni's stylist on where the line sits.

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    00:00 Intro

    01:14 Freq-out: fired over a $2 cookie (Ford)

    06:22 Do generations at work matter? (Rob Briner & "zombie ideas")

    12:31 The hidden cost of empathy at work

    20:02 The "always-on" culture (HiBob research)

    28:45 Gen Z redefines "business casual"

    34:20 Freq-outs: the World Cup red-card U-turn (+ a birthday)

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    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

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    Articles mentioned in this episode:

    Generations at work don’t matter

    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rob-briner_oh-dear-oh-dear-oh-dear-this-is-getting-share-7478814435411689473-fNoP/

    The hidden cost of empathy at work https://www.businessinsider.com/hidden-cost-empathy-tax-work-women-2026-7

    New Research from HiBob and the impact of Always on culture

    https://www.hibob.com/news/britains-workforce-transformation-gap/

    Gen Z redefine ‘business casual’ https://www.linkedin.com/news/story/gen-z-redefines-what-constitutes-business-casual-8959026

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    36 mins
  • Engaged but Trapped: Why a Third of Workers Predict Toxic Culture
    Jul 6 2026

    This week Jenni and Chuck are digging into the real return on AI-driven layoffs, why AI-generated writing has stalled instead of taking over the internet, what's really happening as companies go quiet on LGBTQ+ support, and a new report picking a fight with the entire employee engagement industry.

    Gartner surveyed 350 executives at billion-dollar-plus companies and found that roughly 80% of those deploying autonomous AI made workforce cuts — but the cuts had almost no relationship to actual return on investment. Jenni and Chuck unpack why this creates a messaging problem for comms teams: when a company frames AI as a growth story but the visible news is a headcount reduction, employees notice the gap between what's said and what's done, and that's where trust erodes. Gartner also predicts autonomous business will become a net positive job creator by 2028–2029, driven by new forms of work AI can't absorb — a reminder that in past waves of technological change, roles have shifted rather than simply vanished.

    Next, a Graphite analysis of tens of thousands of English-language URLs from Common Crawl shows that AI-generated articles have flattened at around half for over a year. Jenni and Chuck talk through what that plateau might mean, from the risk of AI models increasingly training on AI-generated content, to how easy it's becoming to spot formulaic, AI-flavoured writing in places like CEO messages and LinkedIn posts. The conversation lands on a practical question for internal comms teams: it's less about whether AI wrote something, and more about whether it still sounds like a real person who works there.

    A Harris poll catches the current DEI rollback in action. The majority of LGBTQ+ employees have noticed a meaningful shift in how their workplace talks about LGBTQ+ issues, and a significant share say the conversation has dropped off or never started at all — with only around a third reporting a workplace that combines strong policy with genuinely supportive culture. Jenni's advice for leaders tempted to see silence as the "safe" option is blunt: silence is still a choice, and it should be tested against the company's stated values rather than treated as neutral. The data backs her up — a large majority of LGBTQ+ employees say they're more likely to stay at a company that visibly supports them, and non-LGBTQ+ employees overwhelmingly say the way a company treats its LGBTQ+ colleagues signals how it treats everyone.

    Finally, a new Integral report challenges the value of employee engagement as a predictor of workplace behaviour. Around three-quarters of the workforce counts as "engaged" by traditional measures, yet a third of them work in environments where they expect destructive colleague behaviour at triple the rate of their peers. Jenni, who has been writing about why engagement alone is the wrong measure of organisational health, calls it one of the most useful reports she's read on the topic, particularly its focus on behaviour over a single tidy score. Chuck connects the dots back to the LGBTQ+ story earlier in the episode, tying the "freedom to speak up" condition directly to whether employees feel safe bringing themselves to work.

    This week's conversation also ties back to a few earlier episodes worth revisiting: Episode 13, where Jenni and Chuck first talked about the risks and dangers employees feel in bringing themselves to work; Episode 55, which covered the Firstup report comparing UK and North American employee engagement and the role benefits play in why people stay; and Episode 63, where Jenni discussed Dorie Clark's The Long Game.

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    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

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    Articles mentioned in this episode:

    AI Layoffs Free Up Budget but Don't Deliver Returns https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2026-05-05-gartner-says-autonomous-business-and-artificial-intelligence-layoffs-may-create-budget-room-but-do-not-deliver-returns

    AI Writing Hits a Ceiling https://www.axios.com/2026/05/15/human-vs-ai-written-articles

    Companies Are Going Quiet on LGBTQ+ Support — and Employees Notice https://theharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Inclusive-Insights-Report-Workplace-June-2026.pdf

    The Engagement Fallacy: Why Engaged Employees Still Quietly Quit https://www.teamintegral.com/integral-index/

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    37 mins
  • Employee Engagement Hits a 5-Year Low — And Managers Are Next
    Jun 29 2026

    This week Jenni Field and Chuck Gose are talking about long-term thinking in a short-term world, what the resignation of the UK Prime Minister reveals about leadership communication, new data from Gallup on the state of global employee engagement, and the ongoing confusion between remote and hybrid work.

    Jenni opens by reflecting on the resignation of UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, with coverage noting that critics felt he lacked the communication skills to connect with the public — described as coming across as stiff and wooden in an era where authenticity and emotion dominate. Jenni and Chuck explore what this reveals about the expectations placed on leaders, drawing a parallel to the CEO experience and asking whether the patience to let leaders develop their communication over time has simply disappeared.

    Gallup's State of the Global Workforce 2026 report lands with a striking headline: global employee engagement has dropped to 20%, its lowest level since 2020, with an estimated $10 trillion cost to the global economy in lost productivity. But the finding Jenni and Chuck dig into most is the shift in manager engagement — once consistently higher than that of the people they lead, it has now fallen to near parity.

    A New York Times Instagram post claiming remote work explains a third of the deterioration in American mental health over the past 15 years prompted a pointed response from organisational psychologist Adam Grant, who argued that hybrid work is in fact healthier than full office attendance. Jenni and Chuck agree with both — and that's the problem. Remote and hybrid are not the same thing, and treating them as interchangeable muddies conversations happening inside organisations right now.

    Jenni brings a book to the table this week: The Long Game by Dorie Clark, which she finished after hearing them speak at a Chris Ducker leadership event. The book centres on long-term thinking in a short-term world — and Jenni draws a direct line between its ideas and the pressures she sees on communications, HR, and leadership teams who are reacting to the next three to six months rather than building toward a clear destination. Three quotes from the book shape the conversation, including the idea that enduring discomfort and humiliation may be necessary for the most powerful long-term rewards — which Chuck reflects on through the lens of building Frequency from zero.

    CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro + good news: Meta stops tracking employees 05:05 UK PM resigns — can leadership communication be taught? 09:05 Gallup 2026: engagement at a 5-year low (and the manager problem) 16:14 Remote vs hybrid: why we keep confusing them 22:33 The Long Game: long-term thinking, by Dorie Clark

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    Want to find out more about Chuck’s work and ICology - check out the website and how to become a member here: https://www.joinicology.com/

    Jenni’s a regular speaker and consultant on leadership credibility and internal communication, you can find out more about how to learn from her and work with her here: https://thejennifield.com/

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    Articles mentioned in this episode:

    UK prime minister has resigned

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygj95xrp9o

    Global employee engagement has fallen to its lowest level since 2020

    https://www.gallup.com/workplace/349484/state-of-the-global-workplace.aspx

    We ran the numbers and remote work is bad for us

    https://www.instagram.com/p/DZzbfz0Egtw/?igsh=MW95ZWhqbXV1ZXA3MA%3D%3D

    The Long Game by Dorie Clark

    https://dorieclark.com/longgame/

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    36 mins
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