This week’s podcast is entitled "Disruptive Parent: Peacemaking While Parenting" we interviewed Pastor Angela Lee. Angela is a friend and co-laborer with us in our racial reconciliation workshops. She is passionate about preaching and peacemaking. Angela talks with us about the challenges of pastoring while raising two beautiful girls under 3 and a bonus daughter. Angela is amazing and you will really enjoy this episode!

Episode 11: Disruptive Pedagogy: Good teachers are competent but great teachers are disruptive.

“No matter what a child comes with you need to be in that place to help them learn.” Karyn Farrar-Perkins

Does it matter if a child is white or black or yellow or brown? Absolutely! This week Karyn Farrar-Perkins joins us to talk about the importance of resisting ‘colorblind education” and instead empowering children to embrace their identity in order to greatly impact all of our children’s learning. She also speaks on how we should examine what we learned in school in order to rid what we pass on to future generations. Specifically, she talks about how racial inferiority and superiority are  shaped and reinforced at every level of the educational system. 

This is a long episode but I strongly encourage you to listen until the end, every word is a nugget!

Karyn’s book recommendations:
Caste by Isabel Wilkerson
So You Want tTo Talk About Race by Ijeoma Olua 
I’m Still Here by Austin Channing-Brown

You can reach Karyn at karyn.farrarperkins@me.com. 

Episode 10:  Disruptive Educator
In this week’s episode we speak with the lovely Jasmine Ward, an educator that teaches in the Los Angeles County Jail System. She talks to us about how she disrupts the peace by courageously voicing how the injustice of many of our systems have impacted the lives of the incarcerated while emphasizing the dignity and the humanity that is often disregarded when thinking about the incarcerated. Our favorite quote by Jasmine is “Disruptive peacemaking is intentionally working toward systems that provide equality and equity for all.” We know that you  will be inspired and informed listening to this episode.

Book recommendations: 
Are Prisons Obsolete by Angela Davis
The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander
Rethinking Incarceration by Dominique DuBois Gilliard