This week’s podcast is entitled "Disruptive Parent: Peacemaking While Parenting" we interviewed Pastor Angela Lee. Angela is a friend and co-laborer with us in our racial reconciliation workshops. She is passionate about preaching and peacemaking. Angela talks with us about the challenges of pastoring while raising two beautiful girls under 3 and a bonus daughter. Angela is amazing and you will really enjoy this episode!

Episode 11: Disruptive Pedagogy: Good teachers are competent but great teachers are disruptive.

“No matter what a child comes with you need to be in that place to help them learn.” Karyn Farrar-Perkins

Does it matter if a child is white or black or yellow or brown? Absolutely! This week Karyn Farrar-Perkins joins us to talk about the importance of resisting ‘colorblind education” and instead empowering children to embrace their identity in order to greatly impact all of our children’s learning. She also speaks on how we should examine what we learned in school in order to rid what we pass on to future generations. Specifically, she talks about how racial inferiority and superiority are  shaped and reinforced at every level of the educational system. 

This is a long episode but I strongly encourage you to listen until the end, every word is a nugget!

Karyn’s book recommendations:
Caste by Isabel Wilkerson
So You Want tTo Talk About Race by Ijeoma Olua 
I’m Still Here by Austin Channing-Brown

You can reach Karyn at karyn.farrarperkins@me.com. 

Episode 10:  Disruptive Educator
In this week’s episode we speak with the lovely Jasmine Ward, an educator that teaches in the Los Angeles County Jail System. She talks to us about how she disrupts the peace by courageously voicing how the injustice of many of our systems have impacted the lives of the incarcerated while emphasizing the dignity and the humanity that is often disregarded when thinking about the incarcerated. Our favorite quote by Jasmine is “Disruptive peacemaking is intentionally working toward systems that provide equality and equity for all.” We know that you  will be inspired and informed listening to this episode.

Book recommendations: 
Are Prisons Obsolete by Angela Davis
The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander
Rethinking Incarceration by Dominique DuBois Gilliard

Episode 9: Disruptive Public Servant.
We are super excited to share this week's interview with the amazing Eileen Kim, J.D. You will truly enjoy this week’s podcast. Eileen drops so many nuggets. She talks about what it means to be a prison abolitionist, how she found her voice through activism, and how the movie Hotel Rwanda inspired her to to fight injustice. Just listening to the clip will entice you to listen to the entire episode. Here is one of Eileen’s quotes: "Engaging in activism is about discovering self-love. It is about doing the work for yourself and examining your internal life as much as it is about getting proximate to other people and speaking up on their behalf."

You can reach Eileen on instagram: @fireflowerabolitionist

“God was always sending a disruptive message to all of our human expectation and always messing with the status quo of the order of things.”
Mayra Macedo-Nolan

This week’s interview is with Prophetic Pastoral Activist, Mayra Macedo-Nolan. She discusses how her roots and her spiritual formation led her to passionately lead a life in community with all by being a disruptive pastor. Mayra is an amazing example of the importance of doing the peacemaking work both internally and externally. Our favorite quote from Mayra is “We preach about reconciliation between God and us and reconciliation between me and you... But if we’re not having real conversation, then it’s empty, doesn’t go anywhere and stays in a utopian ideal of us all loving one another because we believe in Jesus.” This episode is a must listen! 

Contact info: twitter: @mayranolan
Email: mayramacedonolan.com

Book Recs:
Let Justice Roll Down: John Perkins
I Bring the Voices of My People by Chanequa Walker-Barnes
Too Heavy A Yoke: Black Women and the Burden of Strength by Chanequa Walker-Barnes

“The reason why I had been able to be so successful in white culture is because I had assimilated so much and that was tremendously costly to me. People always talk about the cost of not assimilating but they never discuss the cost of assimilating.”

This week on Disruptive Peacemakers we talk with Karen González, a speaker, writer, and immigrant advocate who works as Director of Human Resources for World Relief. An immigrant from Guatemala, González studied at Fuller Theological Seminary. During the conversation she unpacks this amazing quote from her book: “I am a Christian, but I have not ceased to be Latina, Guatemalan, an immigrant, and a woman.” Our conversation with Karen was incredibly deep, personal and informative. She challenges us to re-think how we view immigration and theology.

“We often build our politics around fear… a fear of vanishing or a fear of bad things happening… but what would you imagine if you can imagine if it  could actually work?”
Andrea “Andi” Smith

This week we are so honored and humbled to talk to Andrea “Andi” Smith, one of the co-founders of INCITE! Women of Color Against Violence and the author of Unreconciled: From Racial Reconciliation to Racial Justice in Christian Evangelism. Her work and activism have centered on genocide and acts of violence against Native women. We engage in a conversation on how to challenge what has been the church’s traditional stance on social justice while also being mindful of the perspectives we hold that drive our activism. Our favorite quote by Andi was “we are set up to be complicit in each other’s oppression.” We know that you will enjoy this amazing conversation with Andi!

Episode 5: Disruptive Asian: Shedding the skin of the Model Minority

“I can hear my mother’s voice… “백인들을 화나게 만들지 마”  "Don’t make the white people mad.”
Susie Gamez

This week we talked with the amazing Pastor Susie Gamez. Susie covers a lot of topics! She talks about the myth of the perpetual foreigner, the lack of Asian American representation in films, tokenism, and standards of beauty. She also talks about the day she had to choose between her Asian identity and the kids that she grew up with. Finally, Susie explains how true peacemaking is about creating change!

Recommendations:

Books:
The Color of Compromise by Jamar Tisby (both book and video)
Becoming by Brenda Salter-McNeil

Podcasts:
Someday is Here podcast
Truths’ Table
Hope and Hard Pills

Contact info:
Website - https://www.susiegamez.com/
Instagram - susiekgamez