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Biz-Souls

Biz-Souls

By: Jeffrey Hansler & Rona Lewis
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Welcome to the BizSouls podcast! We talk about the business of everything and we get to the heart, soul…and humor… of business and the people who make it happen.Jeffrey Hansler & Rona Lewis Economics
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  • Episode 227: Confidence vs. Intelligence: Why the Loudest Person Isn’t Always the Smartest
    Jul 13 2026

    Rona Lewis and Jeffrey Hansler explore the battle between confidence and intelligence, and why organizations sometimes reward the person who sounds the most certain instead of the person who is actually the most knowledgeable.

    Our Biz-Souls’ hosts ask the question every workplace has secretly wondered, “Is confidence the secret ingredient to success or just the loudest person in the room getting the microphone?”

    Because let’s face it, we’ve all seen it happen.

    Someone walks into a meeting with absolute certainty, a PowerPoint full of buzzwords, and the confidence of someone who has never once Googled ‘am I wrong?’ Meanwhile, the person with actual expertise is sitting quietly thinking, "Interesting theory. Unfortunately, reality hasn’t entered the discussion."

    In this episode, Rona Lewis and Jeffrey Hansler dive into the fascinating battle between confidence and intelligence — and why businesses often reward the person who sounds the most certain rather than the person who actually knows the most.


    The conversation explores:

    • Why confidence can sometimes beat competence in the workplace?

    • How the Dunning–Kruger effect explains why people with the least knowledge can sometimes have the strongest opinions.

    • Why “fake it until you make it” can work… until someone asks a follow-up question.

    • How credibility, experience, and humility separate true confidence from overconfidence.

    • Why the best leaders are confident enough to speak, and intelligent enough to listen?

    And naturally, there is plenty of self-awareness and self-inflicted roasting as usual with our transparent hosts.

    Jeffrey admits that when he started producing the podcast, his confidence occasionally exceeded his technical ability. Rona reminds everyone that knowing what you don’t know might actually be one of the smartest things you can know.

    And yes, there may have been some discussion about cameras, sound equipment, and Jeffrey confidently ignoring excellent advice from someone who actually knew what they were doing.

    Because while confidence gets you in the room, intelligence helps you stay there. And credibility is what makes people want you back.

    The big takeaway is confidence is powerful and it helps you act, lead conversations, influence decisions, and earn opportunities.

    Confidence without competence becomes dangerous. Which is why the most successful professionals combine confidence, curiosity, competence, and humility. The person who says, ‘I know everything.’, is usually the person you need to worry about. While the person who says, I know a lot, and I know there is still more to learn.’, is usually the person you want leading the team.

    Watch, listen, laugh, and tell us: Who is the most confidently wrong person you’ve ever worked with?

    Related Biz-Souls Episodes:

    Episode 176: Judge Daren Margolin – Leadership, Decisions, and Finding Your Voice

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+176+Judge+Daren+Margolin

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20176


    Episode 177: Margie Zable Fisher – Storytelling, Connection, and Authentic Influence

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+177+Margie+Zable+Fisher

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20177


    Episode 128: Insuring HR Is Taken Care Of

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+128+Insuring+HR+is+Taken+Care+Of

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20128


    Episode 127: Tickled About Piccles! A Unique Way of Connecting Communities

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+127+Piccles

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20127



    #BizSouls #BusinessWithAnEdge #LeadershipDevelopment #Confidence #EmotionalIntelligence #WorkplacePsychology #DunningKruger #CommunicationSkills #ProfessionalDevelopment #LearningAndDevelopment

    #ExecutivePresence #LeadershipLessons

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    16 mins
  • Episode 226: From Fear to Fierce in Your Cancer Journey
    Jul 6 2026

    Cancer changes everything—but it doesn't have to steal your confidence.

    In this heartfelt and surprisingly funny episode of Biz-Souls, Jeffrey Hansler and Rona Lewis welcome back longtime friend and internationally recognized cancer hair-loss expert Amy Gibson, founder of Created Hair and the new Cancer Comfort Corner.

    Amy has spent more than 26 years helping thousands of women navigate one of the most emotional parts of cancer treatment: losing their hair. But this conversation quickly becomes about much more than wigs.

    You'll hear how Amy transformed her own experience with alopecia into a global mission of compassion, innovation, and practical solutions. From inventing the world's first women's swim wig to sharing overlooked tips about chemotherapy, caregiving, hydration, nail safety, laundry, and emotional resilience, Amy proves that sometimes the smallest details make the biggest difference.

    Along the way...

    • Jeffrey asks the questions everyone else is thinking (including confusing "I AM" with AI...)

    • Rona reminds us of why authentic friendships matter.

    • Amy explains why she believes there is no such thing as bad news—only reality paired with solutions.

    If you've ever wondered what true service looks like, this episode delivers equal parts wisdom, laughter, and hope.

    Because sometimes the greatest business model is simply helping people when they need it most.

    We appreciate your likes, shares, and follows. Wishing you continued success on your journey.


    Enjoyed Amy's story? Go back and listen to Episode 52: More Than Just Hair! A Wiggy Conversation with Amy Gibson, where Amy shares her own journey with alopecia, becoming an international wig designer, and why she says she's really in the confidence business—not the wig business. Then come back to hear how her mission has evolved into the Cancer Comfort Corner.

    Episode 52: More Than Just Hair! A Wiggy Conversation with Amy Gibson

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+52+Amy+Gibson

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%2052


    Other related Biz-Souls Episodes:

    Episode 125: How to Retrain Your Brain with Kelley Raleigh

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+125+Kelley+Raleigh

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20125

    Episode 127: Tickled About Piccles! A Unique Way of Connecting Communities

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+127+Piccles

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20127

    Episode 136: Mature Gnome with Ego

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+136+Biz-Souls

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20136

    Episode 137: Just Say No! Maybe.

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+137+Just+Say+No+Maybe

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20137

    Episode 139: Play for Better Living! Why Play Makes Every Life Better

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+139+Play+for+Better+Living

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20139

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    16 mins
  • Episode 225: The Great Executive Disconnect and Why Sales and Tech Need Couples Therapy
    Jun 29 2026

    If you've ever called customer service and ended up questioning your life choices, your sanity, and possibly the existence of organized civilization, this episode is for you.

    This week on Biz-Souls, Rona Lewis and Jeffrey Hansler tackle a business problem so common it has practically become its own department: the giant communication gap between sales and technical teams.

    What starts as a simple internet upgrade quickly becomes a masterclass in organizational dysfunction.

    One order becomes six. A customer becomes a moving target. A phone number disappears. An account somehow exists, doesn't exist, moved, didn't move, and may have entered a parallel universe.

    And yet... the executive team is asleep at wheel.

    One outstanding technician salvages the entire customer experience.

    Using a real-world customer service adventure involving internet providers, billing systems, account migrations, and enough contradictory information to make a GPS cry, Jeffrey and Rona explore why even good companies can create terrible customer experiences when departments operate in silos.

    The conversation dives into:

    • Why sales teams and technical teams often speak completely different languages

    • How misaligned incentives create costly customer frustration

    • The hidden cultural problems that technology alone can't solve

    • Why frontline employees often know more about operational problems than leadership

    • The role of Six Sigma and process improvement in reducing costly mistakes

    • How AI is accelerating the need for organizational alignment

    • Why one exceptional employee sometimes saves an entire company's reputation

    Along the way, you'll hear stories involving internet providers, computer repairs, Amazon reconciliation headaches, disappearing phone numbers, and enough customer service absurdity to make you wonder how organizations stay in business at all.

    The surprising lesson? Most customer experience failures aren't caused by bad employees.

    They're caused by systems that force good employees to work with bad information. When sales, service, operations, technology, and leadership fail to communicate, customers don't see departments. They see one company and wish they could collaborate with a smarter company.

    And when that company acts like five different companies arguing with each other, trust disappears faster than Jeffrey's phone number in a Verizon database.

    Whether you're a business owner, executive, salesperson, manager, consultant, or simply someone who has ever screamed "JUST TALK TO EACH OTHER!" while dealing with customer service, this episode offers practical insights, painful truths, and plenty of laughs.

    Because in business, communication isn't just a soft skill. It's infrastructure. And when the infrastructure fails, everything else starts buffering.

    Related Biz-Souls Episodes:

    Episode 127: Tickled About Piccles! A Unique Way of Connecting Communities

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+127+Piccles

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20127

    Episode 128: Insuring HR is Taken Care of With Innovative Approaches

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+128+Tobias+Kennedy

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20128

    Episode 132: Slay the Villain of Culture Stagnation

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+132+Stephanie+Angelo

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20132

    Episode 137: Giving and Receiving Instructions – A Playful Journey

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+137+Giving+and+Receiving+Instructions

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%20137

    Episode 141: Mature Gnome with Ego: Building a Strong Defense with Humor

    • https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Biz-Souls+Episode+141+Mature+Gnome+with+Ego

    • https://open.spotify.com/search/Biz-Souls%20Episode%2014

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    14 mins
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