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Beyond the Brief

Beyond the Brief

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The Beyond the Brief podcast connects with the world's most interesting marketers to dig into where they find unique insights and work through real-world problems on their path to producing great work that works.Model B Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • Lead Scores, Hand-Raisers, and Human Signals: Why Conversations Still Beat Clicks
    Jan 21 2026

    Keywords

    Jocelyn Sexton, B2B marketing, SaaS, AI, Growth Acceleration Partners, marketing strategies, authenticity, career journey, technology consulting

    Summary

    In this episode of Beyond the Brief, Chris Perkins interviews Jocelyn Sexton, VP of Marketing at Growth Acceleration Partners. Jocelyn shares her journey from journalism to B2B marketing, discussing the challenges and strategies in the tech industry. She emphasizes the importance of understanding client needs, the evolution of SaaS, and the role of AI in marketing. Jocelyn also reflects on the expectations of marketing leaders today and the significance of authenticity in leadership.

    Takeaways

    • Jocelyn's journey from journalism to B2B marketing showcases the diverse paths in the industry.

    • Understanding client needs is crucial for effective marketing strategies.

    • The biggest competitor in B2B is often the status quo, not other companies.

    • AI is becoming essential in marketing, but companies must understand its application.

    • Authenticity in leadership helps build trust and connection with teams and clients.

    • Marketing leaders must balance multiple roles and responsibilities effectively.

    • In-person conversations remain vital for understanding client pain points.

    • SaaS is evolving, and companies must adapt to changing expectations.

    • Collaboration across departments is essential for successful marketing efforts.

    • Storytelling is a powerful tool for marketers to convey value and connect with audiences.

    Sound bites

    • "B2B marketing is my sweet spot now."

    • "Status quo is our biggest competitor."

    • "AI is a must-have."

    Chapters

    • 00:00 Jocelyn Sexton's Journey in Marketing

    • 07:41 Navigating Strategy in B2B Tech

    • 16:06 The Evolution of SaaS and AI Integration

    • 24:58 The Evolving Role of Marketers

    • 32:30 Navigating Internal Dynamics

    • 38:46 Authenticity in Professional Growth

    • 43:22 Future Directions for Growth Acceleration Partners


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    48 mins
  • Borderless Baker, Relentless Marketer: The Global Journey of Mathieu Limousi
    Jan 6 2026

    In this episode of Beyond the Brief, Chris Perkins interviews Mathieu Limousi, CMO of Thunes, who shares his extensive journey in marketing and the FinTech industry. Mathieu discusses the importance of trust in payments, strategies for building brand awareness, and the unique marketing approaches required in different global markets. He also highlights the future of cross-border payments, the role of AI in marketing, and what’s next for Thunes as a rapidly growing company.


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    49 mins
  • Stop Chasing the Spotlight Data: Robin Bowling on Measuring What Actually Matters
    Dec 30 2025


    In this episode of Beyond the Brief, Chris Perkins interviews Robin Bowling, CMO of Curve Dental. Robin shares her extensive background in marketing and leadership, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning and strategic leadership. The conversation delves into team structure, customer personas, and the significance of building trust in marketing. Robin discusses the evolving landscape of trade shows, the balance between fun and seriousness in marketing, and the importance of authentic messaging. She also highlights the value of customer advocacy and shares insights on upcoming innovations at Curve Dental.

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    46 mins
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