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The Collapsing Empire

The Interdependency, Book 1
Narrated by: Wil Wheaton
Series: The Interdependency, Book 1
Length: 9 hrs and 24 mins
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Summary

2018 Locus Award, Best Science Fiction Novel

Our universe is ruled by physics, and faster-than-light travel is not possible - until the discovery of The Flow, an extradimensional field we can access at certain points in space-time that transports us to other worlds, around other stars. 

Humanity flows away from Earth, into space, and in time forgets our home world and creates a new empire, the Interdependency, whose ethos requires that no one human outpost can survive without the others. It's a hedge against interstellar war - and a system of control for the rulers of the empire. 

The Flow is eternal - but it is not static. Just as a river changes course, The Flow changes as well, cutting off worlds from the rest of humanity. When it's discovered that The Flow is moving, possibly cutting off all human worlds from faster-than-light travel forever, three individuals - a scientist, a starship captain, and the empress of the Interdependency - are in a race against time to discover what, if anything, can be salvaged from an interstellar empire on the brink of collapse. 

©2017 John Scalzi (P)2017 Audible, Inc.

Critic reviews

"Fans of Game of Thrones and Dune will enjoy this bawdy, brutal, and brilliant political adventure." (Booklist)

"Scalzi has constructed a thrilling novel so in tune with the flow of politics that it would feel relevant at almost any time." (Entertainment Weekly)

"Political plotting, plenty of snark, puzzle-solving, and a healthy dose of action…Scalzi continues to be almost insufferably good at his brand of fun but think-y sci-fi adventure." (Kirkus Reviews)

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Juvenile

I really struggled to finish this book and I'm surprised at how many good reviews it has.
The basic premis is fine and Wheaton does a reasonable job with the narration, but the dialogue is immature and seems to be aimed at young teenage boys. The culture is unrelentingly modern American in everything from dialogue to attitude and there is no sense at all of a multi cultural interplanetary society. Very few of the central characters were likeable and I really didn't care what happened to them, beyond wishing they could speak without swearing every orher word.
The author conveys no sense that mankind might be changed by living in space, something the Expanse novels handle well. Iain Banks could teach him a great deal about creating believable civilizations (and his ship names are far funnier) and Anne Leckie is so much better at drawing us in to complex alien politics.
I made it to the end only to discover that there's no real resolution and that this is mostly a set up for a series. I don't think I'll bother continuing.

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  • Ryan
  • Belfast, Northern Ireland
  • 20-08-17

Cool concept, badly executed

This novel has cool central concept which is put to waste with some awful dialogue, unmemorable characters and such a lazy ending. Will Wheaton's over exaggerated performance doesn't help either

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Scalzi at Home with Space Opera

I think John Scalzi is at his best when he goes for straight ahead space opera and so this really is home territory for him. The Collapsing Empire builds a promising scenario in which humankind is spread across space on the back of the mysterious "flow" which enables interstellar travel. The flow however is showing signs of instability and the potential impact of that is allegorical to the issue we currently face with climate change. The setup is well done. It is a clever scenario in terms of the habitats that make up the human empire and I am intrigued to see how he develops it in the future books.

Will Wheaton gives his usual fresh and entertaining performance, always a pleasure to listen to. The characters are larger than life as you'd expect and there is plenty of action and no little humour.

It doesn't quite hit the greatest of heights for me though. This is a good read but some of the characters seemed a little one dimensional especially in the dialogue which bordered on the juvenile at times and Wheaton can't deliver "authority" as well as the very best when required.

So not perfect, but still a very entertaining bit of sci-fi that carries promise for a good series going forwards.

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Nothing Happens.

Any additional comments?

The only context I could consider this to be a good book is if it's some kind of clever allegory. If the story itself is meant to mirror the universe it describes then it makes perfect sense that it's a small number of interesting things separated by vast, intractable distances of pure nothingness.

The book feels like a prologue that has been stretched out to make an entire book. The premise of the book, all the significant players and the end goal are all set out at the start of the book and these are pretty much set in concrete. That's perhaps the weirdest part of the book because the story could have been greatly improved by keeping some information back from the reader and then revealing it at critical points but instead of this we know all the key points at the start of the book. There's nothing new introduced and there's no exciting twist, the only really surprise in the book being just how little actually happens.

The characters are flat and lifeless, with maybe the exception of one major character who I initially disliked but came to like as they appeared to be the person with actual characteristics on the book. I don't know what anyone looks like, I don't know where anywhere in the Interdependecy is like beyond the most superficial level and I feel no connection to anything in this book. I really didn't like the politics in this book as conversations with political maneuvering in it essentially boil down to "But if you do that then I'll do that which will make you do that but I will in turn will do that" and it's not hard to seem like a canny political genius when seem to know the impact of anything anyone may ever think about doing.

The dialogue isn't terrible and if it were in service to a book where things of note actually happened then I might have liked it. While I initially had misgivings about Will Wheaton he does a very good job of narrating and I'd happily listen to another book he narrated. Apart from that there's not much positive I can say about the Collapsing Empire, the writing is competent but saying that is like saying "Man, someone did a good jobs making these sandpaper socks!"

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Brilliant

There's many a book like this, but where this really shines is the irreverence and identifiable characterisation. It makes it likeable, relaxed and enjoyable being that bit more real.

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Scalzi Scalped

Story not that original or engaging. Lacking his usual witty dialogue. Degenerates into stereotypical profanities - f**k used hundreds of times, indelicate references to sex and bodily functions. To top it up, he steals The Culture's style of naming ships. Had this been his debut story, he would have gone unnoticed. Good narration though.

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Quite the letdown

Scalzi has created a single character in this book and copy pasted it throughout. This book tries too hard to make every character a "badass space chick" and it loses its novelty fairly quickly.

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  • Grazzer
  • Northampton, United Kingdom
  • 12-02-18

Not quite what I was expecting

But Scalzi spins a good story. This has political/business trickery and manipulation as its main content against a backdrop of the end of the only practical means of interstellar travel is falling apart. Good villains to boo and unwilling heroes to cheer. Just have to be patient for the next book.

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Another excellent book by John Scalzi.

Gotta love his writing style, and the ease at which he introduces Sci-Fi concepts into the story. Looking forward to the second book in the series.
If anyone can't wait for more and hadn't already read it, Scalzi's Old Man's War series is highly recommended.

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slow to get going and snarky but ...

if i had been reading this rather than listening on a long drive i'd probably have given up. So much of it feels like set up. Scalzi's writing style seems to be close to permasnark - either you'll love that or you won't. His characters are rounded and largely vile although thankfully there are one or two sympathetic types. At the end I realised the whole book was just setting up for a series, and I do like the universe, the plot device and 2 of the characters, so I AM interested in what comes next... just not sure its worth the effort of struggling through the style and sheer volume.

I like Wil Wheaton but he can be a snark amplification unit at times. He's quite capable of disappearing into credible characters but any snarky bits get amplified. For me, a less is more approach would have been better.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 12-12-18

Medieval Space story??


I can't see that the future of mankind will be ruled by royal families.

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  • Amy W
  • 11-12-18

Too much profanity; Too Little Story

I enjoy some of John Scalzi's books but I can not listen to this book because of the large amount of profanity. I will be returning this book and, in the future, I will avoid books by this author.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 29-11-18

Juvenile writing, effing effers, effed!!

I know our culture probably isn't insulted by the over the top use of the Eff word. I couldn't finish the book. The writer couldn't come up with intellectual vocabulary that could emphasize a tough guy, that's my take.

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  • Ian Fenty
  • 15-11-18

disappointing

Wheaton does a fine job with banal material. first book was much more entertaining. this one feels adolescent.

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  • Mike Bowers
  • 14-06-18

Mature: Constant F bombs and sex scenes.

If you love constant bad language and vulgar sex scenes, this book is for you.

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  • US Reviewer
  • 19-02-18

I won't be going further with this series

I'm a *big* fan of John Scalzi's.

I like his sharp-edged, sarcastic and comic science fiction (e.g., Agent to the Stars, Redshirts, Fuzzy Nation, and The Android's Dream) and his somewhat more serious, more science-y stuff (e.g., Lock In and The Dispatcher).

(Douglas Adams (Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, and all the Hitchhiker's Guide books) and Scott Meyer (Off to be the Wizard and its sequels) are other comic science fiction writers whose (smart/absurd/funny) work I enjoy.)

But The Collapsing Empire. Ugh. This book is dark and bitter without ever becoming funny. I could either (a) *not* care less about or (b) immediately disliked every character, even the two principal protagonists. And The Interdependency, well, *yawn*.

I'll just say I'm happy to have started with Scalzi's other works. The books I listed earlier all rate 4.75 to 5 star and are *vastly* superior. I'd recommend them all over The Collapsing Empire.

Wil Wheaton delivers a typical Wil Wheaton performance. He's just got very little to work with here.

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  • Jack O'neill
  • 02-04-17

Scalzi Can Do Better.

First, with the good. Wil Wheaton kills it; as always. Scalzi flexes his creative muscles in creating yet another vivid universe with a semi-original premise. Where this one really fell far short for me was an underwhelming story and dearth of developed characters. Both of which, Scalzi usually excels.

I still don't really understand why I should care that 'The Flow' was collapsing/changing. There were only two characters that I gave the slightest care about; Kiva and the new Empero, Cardenia. The former, from sheer shock value, and the latter from actual character development; the others merely fell flat.

And, Scalzi throws A LOT of characters at you. It's​ almost impossible to care about what happens to anyone. Without characters to really connect with, I wasn't invested in the premise. To paraphrase Scalzi's characters "Why should I give a shit?"

Overall, not a terrible romp to pass the time, but I know Scalzi is capable of far greater. Sorry, but this is one universe I think I'll 'Flow' away from in the future.

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  • pat
  • 25-03-17

Definitely not my favorite scalzi

An interesting and engaging story...... Until it peters out with no resolution.

The stopping point of the book feels less like a planed ending and more like the last 50 pages were missing when the book went to the publisher.

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  • Ron P
  • 29-03-17

Just feels small - no sense of scale, so why care?

This is humanity at stake. Gravitas isn't Scalzi's thing, but geez, this one feels like ... who cares? I know I'm in the minority, but this felt like a draft that still needed some pretty hefty structural revisions.

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  • clifford
  • 05-02-18

Dumb

This is Sci-fi with minimal world building. Essentially today’s tech with space ships and little else in the way of technological advances even though it’s set 1000’s of years into the future.

The plot revolves around a muted Game of Thrones character structure. The characters are dumb and shallow.

All in all this is a big letdown for any fan of the first couple Old Mans War books

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