Robin Johnson sits down with sisters Clara and Rose Prince to discuss studying furniture making and textile design, navigating creative careers, and building a future in craft. Clara studies furniture making at West Dean College while Rose focuses on weaving and textiles at Chelsea College. They speak openly about the realities of creative education, student debt, apprenticeships, networking, exhibitions, and the pressure of entering industries where practical skills matter more than academic status. The conversation also explores collaboration, British manufacturing, women in craft industries, and why hands on work still matters in a digital world.

Key Topics Covered:

• Studying furniture making at West Dean College
• Learning weaving and textile design at Chelsea College
• Women entering male dominated craft industries
• Networking and building industry relationships through exhibitions
• Starting a creative career after university
• The reality of running a craft business
• Creative collaboration between furniture and textiles
• The financial pressure of university and student debt
• Why apprenticeships deserve more attention
• British manufacturing and sustainable production
• Using textiles to support dementia care and cognitive health
• Balancing creative ambition with practical industry experience

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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.

Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.

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Key Moments:

00:00 Introduction to Clara and Rose Prince

00:43 Growing up in a creative and hands on family

02:22 Women entering furniture making and textile design

04:48 Supporting each other through creative education

05:53 Exhibitions and presenting work publicly

07:56 How university prepares students for industry

09:32 Plans after graduation and gaining industry experience

12:19 Collaboration ideas and future business ambitions

17:52 Balancing business goals with personal ambitions

21:43 Family influence and inherited craftsmanship

22:54 The cost of university and creative education

23:10 Apprenticeships versus university pathways

26:31 Textiles, dementia care, and cognitive health

29:23 British manufacturing and preserving craft industries

46:48 Advice to their younger selves

Robin Johnson speaks with Oliver Chalk, a self taught wood turner who rebuilt his career during the pandemic by following curiosity rather than a fixed plan. Starting with climbing holds and basic tools, Oliver moved into large scale sculptural woodwork, developing his own techniques through repetition and failure. He explains why surface, texture, and emotional response drive his work, how investing in the right tools changed his trajectory, and why process matters more than outcome when building a creative career.

Key Topics Covered

• Learning wood turning without formal training
• Building skill through experimentation and repetition
• Importance of investing in professional tools and maintaining them
• Developing a recognisable style through surface and texture
• Working with large scale timber and physical challenges
• Using natural materials for sustainability and longevity
• Creative philosophy focused on process and self expression
• Balancing risk, safety, and creativity in the workshop
• Why failure drives progress and skill development

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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.

Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.

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Key Moments:

00:00 Introduction to Oliver Chalk and his wood turning work

00:46 Pandemic career shift and early experimentation

02:11 Learning wood turning through trial and error

06:57 Discovering surface texture and creative direction

09:30 Investing in tools and committing to the craft

10:10 Working with large scale timber and safety awareness

18:09 Moving from turning to sculptural carving techniques

22:49 Creative philosophy and finding purpose through making

29:21 Creativity as problem solving and pushing limits

34:23 Process over product and emotional connection to work

39:27 Exhibitions, galleries, and building a career

53:27 Advice on failure and continuous improvement

Robin Johnson speaks with Ben Goldsmith from Design Woodcraft Ltd about building a timber and furniture business without a clear plan. Ben started with no tools, no strategy, and no formal direction, then grew the company through consistent work and curiosity. The conversation focuses on how the business developed into a sustainable operation, milling its own timber, tracking carbon impact, and working with high profile hospitality clients. This episode gives a grounded view of how a creative business can grow through action rather than planning, and where that approach creates both opportunity and limitations.

Key Topics Covered:

• Starting a business with no plan or formal training
• Moving from kitchen work into woodworking and furniture making
• How Design Woodcraft Ltd grew through trial and consistency
• Building a sustainable timber supply chain from log to finished product
• Milling timber, air drying processes, and cost advantages
• Carbon tracking and creating low impact furniture products
• Working with hospitality clients and high end restaurants
• Why word of mouth growth limits scale
• The challenge of marketing a craft based business
• Creating recurring revenue through maintenance services
• Plans to expand workshop capacity and increase turnover

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Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.

Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.

Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.

Key Moments:

00:00 Introduction to Ben Goldsmith and Design Woodcraft Ltd

02:47 Starting with no tools and no clear plan

07:52 Years of operating without strategy or structure

14:27 Carbon tracking and sustainability in furniture production

23:01 Milling timber and cost advantages

26:00 Full control of supply chain from log to product

29:54 Limits of word of mouth growth

37:23 Creating a recurring revenue service model

41:03 Challenges with marketing and content

1:00:49 Advice on creativity and exploration