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You Can Build A Referee Program That Kids Want To Join with Carlos Ledesma

You Can Build A Referee Program That Kids Want To Join with Carlos Ledesma

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The fastest way to lose a new referee is to certify them online and then throw them into the deep end on a busy weekend. We start with a few big updates from my world, including our first Dr. Tom Gerson Pops Memorial Scholarships for referees and why telling those stories every year matters to me and my family.

Then I’m joined by Carlos Ledesma, a Northern California assigner, director of referees, and certified mentor who has quietly built what a lot of leagues are missing: a repeatable system to recruit, train, develop, and retain soccer referees. Carlos breaks down how he sells refereeing to 13 and 14-year-olds, why shadowing works in real games, and how club scrimmages can become a low-pressure training ground where new officials learn mechanics, positioning, pregame routines, and confidence before the first “real” assignment.

We also get practical about referee safety and retention: sideline seating policies that keep spectators off the assistant referee’s back, strict zero tolerance expectations, and the underrated step of communicating with referees after a referee abuse report so they know action was taken. If you’re an assigner, club leader, coach, or referee mentor trying to solve the referee shortage with better training instead of wishful thinking, you’ll leave with a model you can copy.

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