Episodes

  • From Fuzzy Metrics to Real Impact: Making Clarity Measurable | BTS 3

    From Fuzzy Metrics to Real Impact: Making Clarity Measurable | BTS 3
    Jan 29 2026

    In this Between the Seasons episode, Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee sit down with Amanda Todd, Senior Director of Communications at Temporal Technologies, to unpack why clarity is one of the most critical outcomes of effective internal communication.

    Amanda shares her “squiggly” path into internal comms, her belief in honesty as a core communications skill, and how working in complex, fast-growing organizations pushed her to rethink how success is measured. Drawing on research and real-world experience, she explains how she helped build a Clarity Index that turns something often seen as “soft” into a measurable business metric.

    The conversation explores what it really means to communicate for the receiver, not the sender, why personas matter inside organizations just as much as they do in marketing, and how clarity around strategy, roles, career paths, and culture can directly influence engagement, confidence, and retention.

    This episode is a grounded, practical look at how internal communicators can move beyond vanity metrics, earn credibility with leadership teams, and advocate for the strategic value of their work.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    Why clarity should be treated as a core communications outcome

    How honesty builds trust and effectiveness in internal comms

    What it means to communicate for the receiver, not the sender

    Using personas to simplify complex organizations

    How a Clarity Index can turn comms into a measurable business driver

    The link between clarity, confidence, and employee retention

    Why internal communicators deserve a seat at the strategy table

    Timestamps

    00:00 – Welcome to Between the Seasons and today’s topic

    01:45 – Amanda’s squiggly career path into internal communications

    03:10 – Navigating complexity and subcultures inside organizations

    04:15 – Communicating for the receiver, not the sender

    06:00 – Honesty as a core communications skill

    07:10 – Introducing clarity as a measurable metric

    08:40 – Building a Clarity Index and what it measures

    11:30 – Using data to influence executive teams

    14:05 – Linking clarity to strategy, engagement, and retention

    16:30 – Using clarity data to shape communications strategy

    18:20 – Advice for internal communicators measuring clarity

    19:45 – Final reflections on clarity and the human side of work

    Connect with Us

    Pinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Chris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication

    Bree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Special thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible.


    If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold.

    We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com.


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    21 mins
  • Reddit Reactions: Laid Off and Asked to Train a Replacement | BTS 2

    Reddit Reactions: Laid Off and Asked to Train a Replacement | BTS 2
    Jan 22 2026

    In this Between the Seasons episode of Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?, hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee are joined by Executive Producer Bree Bartos to try a new format: reading and reacting to real Reddit posts about work.

    The episode centers on a Reddit story from an IT professional who was laid off and then asked to train their replacement. As the conversation unfolds, Pinaki, Chris, and Bree dig into the emotional weight of layoffs, including anger, grief, humiliation, and the sense of being discarded after years of contribution.

    Bree brings her own recent layoff experience into the discussion, reflecting on how raw these moments can feel and how difficult it is to separate identity from work when income, stability, and self-worth are suddenly disrupted. Together, they examine why layoffs often feel personal, even when organizations insist they are not.

    The conversation also turns toward leadership and organizations. What responsibility do companies have once someone is laid off? How can layoffs be handled with more empathy and care? And what does it look like to offboard people in ways that acknowledge both the business reality and the human impact?

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • Why layoffs are emotionally disruptive and often traumatic
    • Being asked to train your replacement after being laid off
    • Power, choice, and negotiation during offboarding
    • Why “not taking it personally” is unrealistic in moments like this
    • The emotional gap between organizational decisions and employee experience
    • What more compassionate layoff and offboarding practices could look like

    This episode offers an honest look at a reality many people are facing right now and a reminder that how organizations handle endings leaves a lasting impression.

    Timestamps

    00:00 – Welcome to Between the Seasons

    00:40 – Introducing the Reddit reaction format

    01:10 – Reading the layoff and replacement training story

    02:20 – Emotional reactions to the post

    03:45 – Power and negotiation after a layoff

    05:15 – Bree reflects on her own layoff experience

    07:30 – Why layoffs feel personal and humiliating

    09:40 – Leadership blind spots during layoffs

    11:30 – Rethinking offboarding and support

    13:30 – What more human leadership could look like

    14:50 – Closing reflections

    Connect with Us

    Pinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Chris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication

    Bree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Special thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible.


    If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold.

    We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com.


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    16 mins
  • Meet the Human Behind the Pod | BTS 01

    Meet the Human Behind the Pod | BTS 01
    Jan 15 2026

    This Between the Seasons episode marks the start of a new chapter for Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?

    Hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee introduce Bree Bartos, the new Executive Producer and Editor of Human at Work and Marketing Manager at Local Wisdom. Before diving into Bree’s story, Pinaki and Chris share what listeners can expect from these new, weekly Between the Seasons episodes.

    Bree then opens up about her path into marketing and storytelling, her experience being laid off alongside her husband, and the shock of losing not just a job, but a sense of identity. Together, they reflect on burnout, rest, and why so many of us tie our worth to our work.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • Why Between the Seasons exists and what listeners can expect
    • The value of unscripted, honest conversations
    • What it feels like to be laid off without closure
    • How work can quietly become identity
    • The importance of rest, reflection, and reconnecting with yourself
    • Why staying human at work starts with empathy
    • It’s a grounding, vulnerable start to Between the Seasons and a reminder that behind every role, title, and podcast is a human first.

    Timestamps

    00:00 – Welcome to Between the Seasons

    01:00 – Why this new format exists

    02:30 – Introducing Bree and her role behind the pod

    04:10 – Bree’s path into storytelling and marketing

    07:40 – Being laid off and losing a sense of identity

    11:30 – Burnout, rest, and redefining self-worth

    13:00 – What’s coming next for Between the Seasons

    Stay Human, Stay Curious

    What part of this conversation resonated with you?

    Have you ever tied your identity to your job more than you realized?

    Share the episode, tag us, rate and review, or send it to someone who might need this reminder right now.

    Connect with Us

    Pinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Chris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication

    Bree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Special thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible.


    If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold.

    We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com.


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    14 mins
  • Trailer: Between the Seasons

    Trailer: Between the Seasons
    Jan 9 2026

    We might be between seasons… but we still have lots to say 🤭

    Introducing Between the Seasons – a new, weekly series featuring shorter episodes, honest reactions, and real, unscripted conversations.

    🚨 Episode 1 drops next week! Tune in on Thursday, Jan. 15 on your podcast app of choice or on YouTube where you'll finally we able to watch along 🎉

    📺 YouTube: https://lnkd.in/gmqaU9Ea
    🍎 Apple Podcast: https://lnkd.in/g8nMsp_k
    🟢 Spotify: https://lnkd.in/gig4-d2h
    ✨ Everywhere else: https://lnkd.in/e633AD2q

    Connect with Us

    Pinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Chris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication

    Bree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

    Special thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible.


    If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold.

    We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com.


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    1 min
  • Ep 10 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Entitled?

    Ep 10 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Entitled?
    Aug 7 2025
    Season 2, Episode 10: Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Feel Entitled at Work? Episode DescriptionIs feeling entitled at work… actually a bad thing?In the Season 2 finale of Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?, hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee challenge the stigma around workplace entitlement. They explore what happens when expectations don’t match reality when it comes to salary assumptions and generational values to promotions, office return mandates, and even who gets to speak up.Together, they unpack:What “entitlement” really means—and why it’s become a dirty wordWhy everyone feels entitled to something (yes, including employers)The difference between healthy self-worth and toxic expectationsGenerational gaps in defining success, fairness, and work ethicHow social media, corporate culture, and experience gaps shape what people think they deserveWhat to do when you feel undervalued, overworked, or overlookedAnd why the employer-employee relationship should be a mutual exchange, not a power imbalanceIt’s a vulnerable, witty, and wise closer to a season full of deep dives into the human experience at work. Timestamps00:00 – Do some generations feel more entitled than others?02:00 – What is entitlement, really? A mismatch between cause and effect04:30 – Remote work expectations and the post-pandemic “entitlement bubble”07:00 – Why confidence isn’t the same as readiness (but both show up at work)09:00 – What are we universally entitled to—and where things get murky11:00 – Gen Z’s idea of financial success vs. other generations13:00 – Culture clashes: Structure vs. flexibility, loyalty vs. opportunity15:00 – Employer entitlement: What companies think they deserve17:00 – The history of employer-employee power dynamics20:00 – What happens when people don’t speak up23:00 – Why confidence + lack of experience ≠ arrogance25:00 – Letting go, letting them fail, and learning from new ways of doing things28:00 – Entitlement ≠ laziness: Grit, effort, and advocating for yourself32:00 – Wisdom That Feels So Right: Books, tools, and reflections Wisdom That Feels So RightThe Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins (and TED Talk)Strong, Calm, Confident You by Kelsey BuckholzHow Money Works YouTube channel by Darin SoatThe Confidence Code by Katty Kay and Claire Shipman (for adults and teens)Local Wisdom – Your digital comms partner (like silly putty for your team) Mic-Drop Moments“Entitlement is a byproduct of belief—belief that your effort deserves a return.”“The problem isn’t entitlement. The problem is when our expectations don’t match someone else’s reality.”“We stay human at work by not letting work dehumanize us.” Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication Special ThanksTo the people and teams who made Season 2 possible: Brielle Saracini, SBX Productions, and everyone at Local Wisdom. Thank you for helping us stay human while keeping it real. And to our listeners: thank you for letting us in. Stay Human, Stay CuriousWhat’s something you feel entitled to—and why? Did this episode make you reflect, nod, or even cringe a little? We’d love to hear your thoughts. Share it, tag us, rate us, and visit whydoesitfeelsowrong.com to learn how we’re bringing these conversations to teams and stages. Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher CommunicationBree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local WisdomSpecial thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible. If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold. We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    38 mins
  • Ep 09 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be a Leader?

    Ep 09 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be a Leader?
    Jul 24 2025
    Season 2, Episode 9: Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be a Leader? Episode DescriptionWe’ve all heard it: “Leadership is lonely.” But is it? And if it is, why do so many people still chase it?In this episode of Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?, hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee explore the complex question of modern leadership—what motivates people to lead, what makes leadership feel “wrong,” and how our outdated assumptions about leadership may be holding us all back.From Optimus Prime and parental wisdom to feedback fatigue and executive accountability, this conversation challenges traditional ideas and invites a more human-centered definition of leadership.Together, they unpack:Why people pursue leadership (and what they’re not prepared for)The difference between ambition and accountabilityWhat real influence looks like—and why it often isn’t loudThe cultural myths around “leadership material”Why empathy and emotional intelligence matter more than titlesHow to deal with change fatigue, feedback droughts, and the pressure to be perfectAnd what fictional kings, volleyball teams, and business visionaries can teach us about being a better boss Timestamps00:00 – Optimus Prime, Transformers, and the quest for good leadership02:00 – What makes someone “leadership material”? (It’s not what you think)05:00 – The perks vs. the pressure: Why leadership isn’t for everyone07:00 – What studies say motivates people to lead10:00 – Leaders as guardians of people’s lives—not just KPIs12:00 – The weight of being both inspiring and accountable14:00 – History of CEO behavior: From stability to crisis mode17:00 – Trust, ownership, and letting go: What good leaders actually do20:00 – Building diverse teams that don’t all think like you23:00 – Redefining real leadership: Humanocracy and beyond26:00 – Why feedback is vital—and why some leaders hide from it28:00 – The toll of constant change on organizations and people30:00 – Leaders, slow your roll: How too much innovation overwhelms teams32:00 – Wisdom That Feels So Right: Books, tools, and personal stories Wisdom That Feels So RightGood to Great by Jim CollinsHumanocracy by Gary HamelReality-Based Leadership by Cy WakemanGallagher 2025 Workforce Trends Report (featuring change fatigue insights)Manager Tools – Practical leadership podcast and resourcesTransform Conference – Spring HR and leadership strategy event Mic-Drop Moments“When we win, it’s because of the team. When we lose, it’s on me.”“Leadership isn’t about being the loudest voice—it’s about knowing when to listen.”“Awesome resumes don’t make awesome leaders. Human ones do.” Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication Special ThanksCheers to Local Wisdom , they are spackle for communication teams. For 25 years they've filled talent and technology gaps for the top brands in the world while leading with heart and showing what leadership can really be. Thank you to our producer Brielle Saracini and our partners at SBX Productions for keeping our sound as sharp as our thinking. Reflect + ShareWhat do you wish leaders understood better? What makes a leader worth following in your experience? We want to hear from you. Tag us, review the show, or send us your “WTF leadership” moments—and don’t forget to visit whydoesitfeelsowrong.com to bring these convos into your company. Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher CommunicationBree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local WisdomSpecial thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible. If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold. We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    37 mins
  • Ep 08 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong (Or Good) to Gossip?

    Ep 08 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong (Or Good) to Gossip?
    Jul 10 2025
    Season 2, Episode 8: Why Does It Feel So Wrong (or Good) to Gossip at Work? Episode Description“Don’t tell anyone, but…” As soon as you hear those words, you lean in. Gossip—it’s irresistible, unavoidable, and often misunderstood.In this juicy and thoughtful episode of Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?, hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee explore the complicated nature of gossip in the workplace. Is it toxic? Is it therapeutic? Or is it something in between?They dig into:Why gossip is inevitable—and maybe even necessaryThe fine line between venting and tearing others downHow gossip builds bonds but can break trustThe role of culture, leadership, and communication gaps in fueling rumorsWhen to use gossip strategically (yes, really)Why being left out of the loop feels like exileFrom The Office’s Michael Scott and family drama to internal comms campaigns and informal influence networks, this episode is both lighthearted and layered, offering a refreshingly human take on a taboo topic. Timestamps00:00 – “Don’t tell anyone, but…”: Why we love secrets02:00 – Family gossip, cultural roots, and generational drama04:30 – Defining gossip: How it’s different from information06:30 – Gossip as a spectrum: From malicious to useful08:00 – Psychology Today search exercise: Three expert takes on gossip10:30 – Why it’s satisfying to gossip (and why it’s so human)13:00 – When managers weaponize gossip15:00 – Constructive vs. corrosive: Who gossip serves and hurts17:00 – Gossip as intel: Can it help you navigate people and decisions?20:00 – Gossip as comms strategy: Using the “whisper network” intentionally22:00 – What poor communication breeds: Rumors, not results25:00 – How leaders can stop spinning and start listening27:00 – Heart rate, fear, and sarcasm: Signals we might be miscommunicating29:00 – Do some leaders avoid the truth? Why transparency matters32:00 – Wisdom That Feels So Right + final thoughts Wisdom That Feels So RightBrave New Work by Aaron DignanReality-Based Leadership by Cy WakemanThe Alchemist by Paulo CoelhoGallagher 2025 Workforce Trends Report (produced by Sharn Kleiss)Psychology Today Search on “Gossip at Work”Transform Conference – Bold ideas for the future of HR and communication Mic-Drop Moments“Gossip is how humans download each other’s software updates.”“If I’m talking about you to someone else, I’ve either already told you—or I’m ready to tell you now.”“The more fear in your words, the less clarity in your message.” Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication Special ThanksMuch love to Local Wisdom for building a home for digital communication unicorns and celebrating 25 years of real talk and strong teams. Huge appreciation to Brielle Saracini for producing this podcast and to our amazing audio crew at SBX Productions (Vince, Taylor, and Bill) for keeping us crisp. Let’s Keep the Conversation GoingDid this episode make you rethink how you talk about others—or yourself—at work? Got a gossip story with a twist? Share your take, tag us, or drop a DM. And if your team’s ready to tackle human workplace truths in a workshop or at your next conference, check out whydoesitfeelsowrong.com. Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher CommunicationBree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local WisdomSpecial thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible. If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold. We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    35 mins
  • Ep 07 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Manage Up?

    Ep 07 | Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Manage Up?
    Jun 26 2025
    Season 2, Episode 7: Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Manage Up at Work? Episode DescriptionWe’ve all seen it—or done it. The awkward compliment. The carefully crafted update. The subtle self-promotion. But where’s the line between managing up and straight-up sucking up?In this episode of Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?, hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee unpack the complicated world of influencing your boss. Managing up can be smart and strategic—or manipulative and maddening. So how do we make sense of it?Together, they explore:Why managing up gets a bad rap (hello, teacher’s pet flashbacks)How cultural norms and personality types affect how we manage upWhy good work alone doesn’t always get noticedHow leaders can avoid playing favorites and foster real team trustWhat it means to advocate for yourself without stepping on othersThe duality of being both an influencee and an influencerThe ethics of self-promotion, power, and career strategyFrom Confucian hierarchy and classroom memories to corporate communication and performance reviews, this episode is packed with perspectives from all sides of the power dynamic. Timestamps00:00 – Why this topic hits a nerve (and reminds us of high school)03:00 – “Managing up” vs. “kissing up”: Is there a difference?06:00 – How cultural backgrounds influence workplace dynamics08:00 – The big picture: Everyone sees the org from a different vantage point10:00 – Self-awareness before self-advocacy: Check your blind spots13:00 – When ambition meets group work: Getting credit without gloating15:00 – The echo chamber of leadership feedback18:00 – Building strong relationships: trust, advocacy, and transparency21:00 – Annual reviews, promotions, and the art of recognition25:00 – Team unity vs. individual credit: a delicate balance28:00 – The role of managers: coaches or competitors?31:00 – How managers can spot invisible contributions33:00 – Dale Carnegie, power plays, and staying human Wisdom That Feels So RightHow to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale CarnegieThe 48 Laws of Power by Robert GreeneExtreme Ownership by Jocko WillinkGet to the Point by Joel SchwartzbergTEDx Talk by Elizabeth Xu at TEDxCSTU: “Why Manage-Up Kills Career" Elizabeth Xu, Ph.D.Transform HR Conference – Yes, we went and we'll do it again! Mic-Drop Moments“Managing up feels wrong when it stops being about the mission—and starts being about the mirror.”“Your job isn’t just to work hard. It’s to be seen, valued, and understood for it.”“We’re all on the same team—until performance reviews make us forget that.” Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication Special ThanksTo the brilliant minds at Local Wisdom, thank you for 25 years of helping people communicate clearly, effectively, and humanely. To Brielle Saracini, our fearless producer, and to SBX Productions. You are the real MVPs behind the mic. Your Turn to Speak UpHas managing up helped you or backfired? Have you ever felt unseen, unrecognized, or unfairly outshined? Share your story, tag us in your reflections, or drop a review. We want to hear your take on the delicate art of managing in every direction. Connect with UsPinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn | Local WisdomChris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher CommunicationBree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local WisdomSpecial thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible. If this episode made you think differently, laugh, or even yell out loud, we want to hear about it! Connect with us on LinkedIn, and don’t forget to rate, review, and share – maybe with your work bestie… or even your boss if you're feeling bold. We also bring these important conversations to conferences and private workshops, creating space for real, meaningful change. Take the first step at www.whydoesitfeelsowrong.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    40 mins