Wesley Clarke led the Manawatū Women's Sevens to back-to-back national finals, claiming the title in 2016.

He stepped onto the international stage as assistant coach of the Black Ferns from 2015 to 2022, delivering World Cup victories in 2017 and 2022.

He’s now head coach of the Manawatū Turbos in the National Provincial Championship — a team that once fired him.

In this conversation, Kaila and Wesley explore:

• how being fired turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to him,
• what it means to be a good follower, and
• a specific technique he uses to help players take ownership and accountability.

A huge thanks to Celebrity Speakers for supporting this episode. If you want to book Wesley for a keynote and leave your audience hungry for more, visit celebrityspeakers.co.nz.

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