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WTF is Business Casual

WTF is Business Casual

By: Rise Human Resources
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Buckle up for real HR stories that'll make you laugh, cringe, and thank your lucky stars you're not that guy.

WTF is Business Casual is the HR podcast where two seasoned consultants—Sarah Bursten and Jenny Lavey, co-founders of RiseHR—dish on wild workplace fails, toxic bosses, employee drama, and leadership gone wrong. With 35+ years of combined experience in HR, leadership development, and people management, they offer surprisingly useful advice wrapped in real talk and hilarious storytelling.

If you’re an HR professional, small business owner, people manager, or just someone who’s survived office politics, this show is for you.

Subscribe to WTF is Business Casual—because work is weird, leadership is messy, and people always be peopling.

Hosted by Sarah Bursten & Jenny Lavey | RiseHR
www.risehumanresources.com

© 2026 WTF is Business Casual
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Episodes
  • When Employees Start Making the Rules: How Leaders Should Respond
    May 6 2026

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    What happens when employees stop asking and start telling?

    In this episode, Jenny and Sarah unpack a growing workplace trend they have been seeing with small business owners: employees announcing schedule changes, cutting their hours, demanding remote work, and assuming the answer will be yes.

    The bigger issue is not employee boldness. It is leadership hesitation.

    They dig into why so many leaders struggle to respond in the moment, how unclear expectations create bigger problems later, and why avoiding uncomfortable conversations often creates legal risk, resentment, and confusion across the team.

    This conversation covers the real difference between being flexible and being run over.

    In this episode, they cover:

    • Why employees are increasingly telling leaders what they will do instead of asking
    • The difference between a reasonable request and an unreasonable demand
    • Why small business owners often struggle more with boundaries than corporate leaders
    • How unclear expectations create confusion, inconsistency, and frustration
    • Why avoiding hard conversations almost always makes the problem worse
    • How to think through requests for schedule changes, reduced hours, and remote work
    • What leaders should do before saying yes to a request tied to stress, family needs, or medical concerns
    • Why documentation matters more than most leaders realize
    • The role of boundaries, accountability, and clear communication in healthy workplaces

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    45 mins
  • The Most Expensive "Free" Lunch in HR History.
    Apr 22 2026

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    A team gets invited to a "free" lunch with a consultant, and it ends up costing the company six months of peace.

    Jenny and Sarah unpack a "WTF" moment where a simple midday meeting turned into a spiral of written statements, HR investigations, and a team that stopped speaking to each other. It’s a look at how a lack of curiosity and a surplus of ego can turn a minor oversight into a total relationship wrecking ball.

    Spoiler: When leaders choose "investigation mode" before asking a single question, everyone loses.

    They dive into the ripple effect of a leader who skipped the facts to go straight for the jugular, and a leader whose "I’d tell you if you sucked" management style left her team feeling like cogs in a machine.

    In this episode, you’ll get:

    • The Anatomy of "Lunch-Gate": How a tiny miss in communication led to half a year of resentment and "mechanical" one-on-ones.
    • The Ego Trip: Why "hot and emotional" leadership is a recipe for collateral damage.
    • The Power of the Non-Apology: Why it’s so hard for leaders to just say, "I forgot, and I’m sorry this landed on you."
    • Assuming Negative Intent: How we "stack" stories in our heads until our bosses look like villains and our office doors stay closed.
    • The Empathy Deficit: A reality check on why being "black and white" at the top leads to a very grey future for your culture.

    Whether you’ve been thrown under the bus or you’re the one driving it, this episode is a mirror moment for anyone who’s ever forgotten that HR stands for Human Resources.

    Hit play. Bring your own lunch—just make sure you run it by the head honcho first.

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    43 mins
  • Gen Z at Work: Lazy, Loud, or the Wake-Up Call Corporate Needed? (Rebroadcast)
    Apr 8 2026

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    Rebroadcast: It’s graduation season, and we’re dusting off one of our all-time fan favorites! Whether you’re tossing your cap, building a team, or guiding the next generation, this episode is essential listening for navigating the transition from campus to career.

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    Gen Z has officially entered the chat and corporate America isn’t ready.

    Jenny and Sarah rip into the chaos (and low-key brilliance) of the newest generation in the workplace. Are they entitled job hoppers with no soft skills… or the only ones brave enough to call BS on burnout culture?

    Spoiler: it’s complicated — and very, very human.

    They unpack everything from Gen Z’s allergy to fake leadership to why they’ll quit faster than you can say “circle back.” Plus, the hosts drag every generation (including their own) through the mud for good measure.

    You’ll get:

    • The truth about Gen Z’s “bad attitude” and why it’s actually a boundary
    • How pandemic schooling and parenting styles rewired workplace expectations
    • Real talk on feedback, flexibility, and why managers need to grow up too
    • The tension between “just do your job” and “I need meaning in my job”
    • A mirror moment for HR pros who keep trying to lead with policies instead of people

    Because every generation swears the next one’s the problem, but maybe Gen Z’s just the first one bold enough to say the quiet part out loud.

    Hit play.
    Laugh a little, cringe a lot, and maybe rethink how you talk about “kids these days.”

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