Episodes

  • Ep. 11 – Nina Rodriguez: Yosef’s Sister

    Ep. 11 – Nina Rodriguez: Yosef’s Sister
    Jun 23 2026
    Unspoken Grief hosts Michael Vinton and Tina Chevalier welcome Nina Rodriguez, founder and executive producer of the award-winning podcast Grief and Light, to discuss grief as a lived experience deserving dignity, depth, and community. Nina shares how her brother Joseph died from fentanyl poisoning in 2019, the traumatic aftermath, and the harmful things people said that fueled her mission to create an anonymous grief account that grew into her platform. She explains the physical and emotional impacts of grief, including learning about broken heart syndrome, and explores “living in the and,” holding joy and sorrow together without timelines. The episode highlights sibling loss as disenfranchised grief, identity shifts after loss, continued bonds, boundaries in sharing stories, and practical coping like keeping a “Joseph journal,” finding supportive communities, and extending grace to others.988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text LineText HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support Nina Rodriguez Email: nina@griefandlight.comWebsite: griefandlight.comInstagram: @griefandlight@itsnrodriguezPodcast: Grief and LightYouTube: @griefandlight Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.orgPodcast: Unspoken Grief IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)Headshot: Headshot 1 Headshot 2 Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org Podcast: Unspoken GriefIG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsFB: FacebookHeadshot; Headshot Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Ep. 10 – Krista Schenck: Life After the Unthinkable: Love, Loss, and Bojangles

    Ep. 10 – Krista Schenck: Life After the Unthinkable: Love, Loss, and Bojangles
    Jun 9 2026
    In this Unspoken Grief episode, hosts Michael Vinton and Tina Chevalier, speak with survivor Krista Schenck, who lost both parents, Mark and Bonnie, in a July 2021 murder-suicide in which her father was the perpetrator. Krista shares what it has meant to live in the aftermath, including shock, a roller coaster of grief, anger, dark humor as coping, and the challenge of returning to work and facing awkward interactions. She describes friends who rotated staying overnight, support during her eulogy, and how community support can drop off after the first weeks, prompting her to seek groups, counseling, and medication. Krista discusses identity shifts, struggling with holidays, rebuilding routines, using music and planned events to create “micro joys,” navigating estate issues and the slayer clause, and finding hope in good, caring people.988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text LineText HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support Krista Schenck Instagram:ig/nebulana1 Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.orgPodcast: Unspoken Grief IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)Headshot: Headshot 1 Headshot 2 Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org Podcast: Unspoken GriefIG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsFB: FacebookHeadshot; Headshot Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    48 mins
  • Ep. 9 – Dr. Denise Dailey: The Weight They Carry, The Silence We Miss: Identity Collapse And Distorted Responsibility

    Ep. 9 – Dr. Denise Dailey: The Weight They Carry, The Silence We Miss: Identity Collapse And Distorted Responsibility
    May 26 2026
    Unspoken Grief hosts Michael Vinton and Tina Chevalier welcome Dr. Denise Dailey, a licensed clinical psychologist and founder of Our Daily Bread, LLC, to discuss insights from their APA Division 19 Society for Military Psychology symposium presentation, “Unseen Battlefields,” exploring the intersection of military-related violence and murder-suicide and the overlooked impact on families and communities. Dr. Dailey shares how her family’s multigenerational military service shaped her understanding that trauma doesn’t stay overseas, describes post-deployment stress, injury, and family-system effects, and explains overlaps among isolation, identity collapse, burdensomeness, and moral injury. The conversation examines limitations in data and public narratives about perpetrators, warning signs families can take seriously, the importance of curiosity and presence, and practical steps like asking direct questions and using 988 for guidance, while also addressing provider burnout, hope through connection, and survivor community support988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text LineText HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support Dr. Denise Dailey Email: ourdaileybread@outlook.comWebsite: www.ourdaileybread.com and Dailey, Denise | FacultyProfile | Adler UniversityLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/drdaileyptsdCauses: (Clinicaland Research Interest: PTSD Assessment and Treatment, Health Psychology,Military Clinical Psychology, Chronic Pain, Insomnia, Risk Assessment andSuicide Prevention ) Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.orgPodcast: Unspoken Grief IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)Headshot: Headshot 1 Headshot 2 Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org Podcast: Unspoken GriefIG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsFB: FacebookHeadshot; Headshot Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    59 mins
  • Ep. 8 - ChaRon Sattler-Leblanc: The Echoes of One Day: From 1990 to Now, How One Tragedy Still Ripples Today

    Ep. 8 - ChaRon Sattler-Leblanc: The Echoes of One Day: From 1990 to Now, How One Tragedy Still Ripples Today
    May 12 2026
    In this episode of Unspoken Grief, hosts Michael Vinton and Tina Chevalier welcome survivor and advocate ChaRon Sattler-LeBlanc, who lost her cousin Julie (23) and Julie’s daughter Jacqui (5) in July 1990. ChaRon describes learning the news while in college, the isolation and shame of grieving before online communities or public language for murder-suicide loss, and the complex family dynamics shaped by Korean heritage, arranged marriage, domestic violence, and separation. She shares how trauma resurfaced during a later campus incident involving a firearm and how limited counseling support was in the 1990s. ChaRon discusses long-term impacts, secondary losses, and how advocacy (including Moms Demand Action), civic work, and community connection help her heal while emphasizing boundaries, self-care, and loving people in their wholeness, including families of perpetrators988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text LineText HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support ChaRon Sattler-LeblancEmail: charon.rochester.ny@gmail.comWebsite:Cha Ron VotesCauses: A Longing for Yesteryear MomsDemandAction Eoisode Resource Section Who Needs God When Bad Things Happen to Good People Please Call Me by My True Names Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.orgPodcast: Unspoken Grief IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)Headshot: Headshot 1 Headshot 2 Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org Podcast: Unspoken GriefIG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsFB: FacebookHeadshot; Headshot Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    49 mins
  • Ep. 7 - Grief in the Gray: The Stories You’re Not Hearing About Murder-Suicide

    Ep. 7 - Grief in the Gray: The Stories You’re Not Hearing About Murder-Suicide
    Apr 28 2026
    In this episode of Unspoken Grief, hosts Michael Vinton and Tina Chevalier talk about their survivor-led nonprofit community, ISMS (Impacted Survivors of Murder Suicide), which offers peer support spaces, awareness, and advocacy, especially for families of the person who caused harm. Michael and Tina share their experiences losing their loved ones five years ago, describing shock, sleeplessness, confusion, stigma, and the difficulty of grieving someone who also caused harm, while emphasizing that loved ones are “more than their final act.” They discuss ripple effects on friends, neighbors, witnesses, and first responders, the long journey after headlines fade, practical aftermath issues, and concerns about sensationalized media language and oversimplified explanations. They highlight hope found through community, expand support calls, and invite listeners to access resources at impactedsurvivors.org988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text LineText HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.orgPodcast: Unspoken Grief IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)Headshot: Headshot 1 Headshot 2 Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org Podcast: Unspoken GriefIG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsFB: FacebookHeadshot; Headshot Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    53 mins
  • Ep. 6 – Dr. Thomas Joiner: Inside The Mind, Outside The Narrative: Rethinking What Drives Murder-Suicide

    Ep. 6 – Dr. Thomas Joiner: Inside The Mind, Outside The Narrative: Rethinking What Drives Murder-Suicide
    Apr 14 2026
    In this episode of Unspoken Grief, hosts Michael Vinton and Tina Chevalier welcome psychologist and researcher Dr. Thomas Joiner, whose work is widely cited in survivor communities and who authored The Perversion of Virtue, a book the hosts frequently reference in presentations about murder-suicide. Joiner explains how his research led him to conclude most murder-suicides are planned and rooted in a distorted, “virtuous” rationale tied to four perverted virtues—justice, mercy, duty, and glory—illustrating examples including Columbine and the influence of Timothy McVeigh. The group discusses stigma faced by survivors, language challenges around “perpetrator,” why families may not see their loved one as suicidal, the value of psychological autopsies, and how suicide prevention strategies like means safety and effective CBT may also prevent murder-suicide.988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text LineText HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support Dr Thomas Joiner:Email: joiner@psy.fsu.eduBook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199334552?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_WTDG24DTBD8N6ZD1RAEB&bestFormat=trueWebsite: Thomas Joiner | Department of PsychologyGeorgia Commission on Family Violence Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.orgPodcast: Unspoken Grief IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)Headshot: Headshot 1 Headshot 2 Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org Podcast: Unspoken GriefIG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsFB: FacebookHeadshot; Headshot Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    1 hr
  • Ep. 5 Unspoken Roundtable - What if?

    Ep. 5 Unspoken Roundtable - What if?
    Jul 15 2025
    In this heartfelt episode of the Unspoken Grief podcast, hosts Tina Chevalier, Kristina Faulkner, and Michael Venton dive deep into their personal stories as survivors of murder-suicides and wonder what life might be like if they had never had to face such tragedies. They go on to explore some of the positive and strange outcomes that have occurred since their loses as well. They also share updates from recent conferences, exciting developments in their nonprofit work, and the new grief course designed for children. Join them for a poignant discussion on turning tragedy into purposeful living, and discover how love, community, and being present in the moment have been crucial in their healing journeys. This episode is an invaluable resource for anyone affected by trauma and looking for support and understanding.

    988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/
    At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone.

    Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org

    Crisis Text Line Text HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support

    Michael Vinton
    Email: info@impactedsurvivors.com
    Website: www.michaelvinton.com
    http://www.impactedsurvivors.org
    IG: @therealmichaelvinton
    FB: Michael Vinton
    Linkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373
    IDMB: Michael Vinton (III)

    Tina Chevalier
    Email: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com
    Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org
    IG: @impactedsurvivorsofms

    Kristina Faulkner
    Email: kbellatino@gmail.com
    Website: www.getinspiredtherapy.com
    www.impactedsurvivors.org

    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 Introduction and Welcome
    02:03 Honoring Lost Loved Ones
    04:32 Conference Highlights and Updates
    10:50 Children's Grief Course Announcement
    13:02 Reflecting on Personal Loss and Growth
    27:40 Struggles of Stepping into New Roles
    30:05 The Importance of Community for Survivors
    39:48 Fears of Future Losses
    47:13 Coping Mechanisms and Personal Growth
    55:43 Closing Thoughts and Resources

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    57 mins
  • Ep. 4 - Sara Cobb

    Ep. 4 - Sara Cobb
    Jul 4 2025
    Join hosts Tina Chevalier, Kristina Faulkner, and Michael Vinton on Unspoken Grief as they dive deep into the complexities of murder-suicide loss with special guest Sara Cobb, a licensed professional counselor and founder of My Grief Connection. Sarah bravely shares her personal journey of losing her brother in a murder-suicide and how this tragedy has fueled her passion for grief and mental health advocacy. Together, they explore the importance of finding support, coping with trauma, and providing resources for survivors. This emotional and insightful episode aims to break the silence surrounding grief and help others navigate their own paths to healing. 988 Lifeline number: https://988lifeline.org/ At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be complex. Whether you're facing mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to, our caring counselors are here for you. You are not alone. Didi Hirsch Mental Services: didihirsch.org Crisis Text Line Text HOME to 741741 Free, 24/7 Mental Health Support Sara Cobb Email_mygriefconnection@outlook.comWebsite www.mygriefconnection.orgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarajcobb/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mygriefconnectionInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/my_grief_connection/Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/mygriefconnection/boards/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mygriefconnection Michael VintonEmail: info@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.michaelvinton.com http://www.impactedsurvivors.org IG: @therealmichaelvintonFB: Michael VintonLinkedin: m/ichael-vinton-6702a373IDMB: Michael Vinton (III) Tina ChevalierEmail: Tina@impactedsurvivors.com Website: www.impactedsurvivors.org IG: @impactedsurvivorsofmsKristina FaulknerEmail: kbellatino@gmail.comWebsite: www.getinspiredtherapy.com www.impactedsurvivors.org CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome and Introductions01:12 Sharing Personal Losses03:11 Introducing Special Guest Sarah Cobb05:29 Sarah Cobb's Grief Journey13:51 Impact of Childhood Trauma23:47 Family Conversations on Grief30:35 Navigating Conversations About Loss33:52 Sharing Grief in Public Spaces40:11 Understanding Murder-Suicide45:04 Advice for New Grievers49:59 The Ongoing Process of Healing50:22 Closing Remarks and Resources Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    55 mins