Episodes

  • Two PiGs in a Pod - Shelforce's Howard Trotter
    Jan 15 2026

    We are back for series three of Two PiGs in a Pod, and we are kicking things off with a standout guest. Host George is joined by Howard Trotter, Business Manager at Birmingham-based PVC-U window and door manufacturer and installer Shelforce.

    In this episode, Howard shares his journey from life in the Navy, through working with timber windows, to spending 13 hugely successful years at Shelforce, helping to transform the business and drive award-winning performance.

    Howard also talks openly about what makes Shelforce different. With 75 percent of its workforce made up of people with disabilities, he explains why the company’s focus is on being recognised first and foremost as a high-performing, successful business, not defined by who it employs.

    To wrap things up, Howard steps into our brand-new This or That round, answering quick-fire questions at pace. Expect honest, instinctive answers to topics like coffee or tea, risk taker or risk manager, and whether he is more of a listener or a talker.

    A great conversation to launch the new series, packed with insight, experience and a few surprises along the way.

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    36 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - PiGs' Year in Review 2025 with Sarah and George
    Dec 18 2025

    For the final episode of Two PiGs in a Pod for 2025, host George is joined by the one and only “Sty Master” herself, Sarah Ball, for a feel good, reflective, and festive looking conversation to close out the year.

    In this special end of year episode, George and Sarah look back on what has made 2025 such a standout year for PiGs.

    From unforgettable moments and standout events and other highlights, they share why this year has felt particularly positive for PiGs and its community. Their conversation also shines a spotlight on the people who have helped make 2025 such a success.

    From supporters and readers, to familiar faces across the industry that have appeared on the podcast, George and Sarah discuss the individuals and teams who have played a key role in making PiGs what it is today.

    Looking ahead, they also discuss what’s coming next, sharing their excitement for 2026, teasing what listeners can look forward to in the year ahead, including new ideas, events, and ambitions for PiGs.

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    30 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - Gary Morton
    Dec 5 2025

    In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, we sit down exclusively with one of the glazing sector's most recognisable figures, Gary Morton from Central Window Systems and GM Fundraising.

    This is a rare chance to hear the inside story behind his 30 plus years in the industry, from an unexpected start in the industry, to all the highs, lows and unforgettable moments that shaped his journey.

    We dive into Gary's incredible work as founder of GM Fundraising, an organisation that has raised more than £2.5 million for many charities since 1995. He talks about how it all began, the milestone fundraising events that became his and industry favourites, and what it feels like to step back after three decades, while continuing his involvement as a Hope House Trustee.

    There is plenty of insight, inspiration and a few surprises along the way.

    Gary also takes on our Quick Fire Question Round, revealing his favourite things outside of work, go to food choices and much more.

    A must-listen conversation with someone who has helped shape the sector, and has touched the lives of so many through leadership, business and fundraising.

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    55 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - Sam Nuckey and Sarah Binns
    Nov 20 2025

    Discover the inspiring story behind Window Ware’s 2022 Management Buy Out (MBO) in this brand new episode of Two PiGs in a Pod!

    Host George Lewis sits down with Window Ware Co-Owners — Managing Director Sam Nuckey and Customer Operations & Marketing Director Sarah Binns — for an unmissable deep dive into leadership, culture, and the future of one of the UK’s most respected fenestration businesses.

    Sam and Sarah share their career journeys through the glazing and hardware sector, how they first joined Window Ware, and the pivotal moment the opportunity for an MBO arose. They reveal the challenges, breakthroughs, and pride that came with becoming local people owning a local company, as they mark three years since the acquisition and look ahead to exciting new investments and growth plans.

    The conversation also takes a personal turn as Sam talks about taking on PiGs’ “Machu PiGchu” charity challenge — from nerves and motivation to why fundraising for Harry’s Pals means so much.

    Plus, don’t miss our fan-favourite quick-fire round, where Sam and Sarah reveal their favourite foods, the things they can’t live without, and who they’d swap roles with for a day at Window Ware!

    If you’re interested in business leadership, MBO success stories, fenestration industry insights, or simply love hearing from the people shaping our sector, this is the episode for you.

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    45 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - Richard Hammond
    Nov 6 2025

    In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Richard Hammond, Sales Director at Universal Trade Frames, to uncover his journey through the glazing and fenestration industry.

    From starting out as a young door-to-door salesman to leaving the industry to gain international experience in project management in South Africa, Richard shares the twists and turns that brought him back to the UK glazing sector in 2006 with Mila, and eventually to his current leadership role.

    Richard dives into:

    - The skills and strategies required to succeed as a Sales Director in the glazing and window industry

    - Highlights from FIT Show 2025 and the company’s latest achievements

    - Inspirational moments and people who have shaped his career

    - What it means to be recognised by the industry, after Universal's G-Award nomination

    - Future plans for both his career and Universal Trade Frames

    Plus, Richard takes part in our fun quickfire questions, sharing his loves for music, family, and pizza, and revealing who he’d swap roles with for a day.

    All this plus much more!

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    30 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - FENSA's Sam Davies
    Oct 23 2025

    In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with FENSA Technical Manager, Sam Davies.

    With more than 23 years in the fenestration and glazing industry, Sam shares his career journey — from starting out as a window installer after following a friend into the trade, to working at RISA on inspection services, and now leading the technical team at FENSA.

    Sam discusses his day-to-day role, the common challenges faced by installers, and the support and guidance FENSA provides to help businesses stay compliant and raise standards.

    He also talks about the upcoming Building Regulation changes, why he sees them as a real opportunity to improve quality across the industry, and how FENSA is helping installers prepare for what’s ahead.

    Finally, Sam takes on our quick-fire questions, revealing his love of football (and Aston Villa!), his favourite food, and who he’d swap roles with for a day at FENSA.

    Listen now for insight, advice, and a behind-the-scenes look at FENSA’s role in shaping the future of the glazing industry.

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    38 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - Dr Indy Rama
    Oct 10 2025

    In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George Lewis sits down with Dr. Indy Rama, Operations Director at Bloomsbury Glass, to uncover his extraordinary journey from medicine to the glazing industry.

    Indy shares how he went from working as a hospital doctor and GP to joining the family glazing business, where he now plays a key role in its operations—all while still practising as a GP.

    He reveals the skills and mindset he’s transferred from medicine to manufacturing, the challenges and rewards of juggling two careers, and what the future holds for Bloomsbury Glass.

    Plus, in our Quick Fire Round, Indy answers fun and personal questions — from his favourite meal to the best career advice he’s ever received.

    If you’re interested in inspiring career stories, family businesses, or the human side of the glazing sector, this episode is a must-watch.

    Listen now to hear:

    -How Indy transitioned from doctor to glazing professional

    -What he’s learned about leadership and balance

    -The most memorable moments from his time at Bloomsbury Glass

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    34 mins
  • Two PiGs in a Pod - Mike Fagg
    Sep 25 2025

    In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George sits down with Mike Fagg, Managing Director of First Home Improvements and Director of SevenDay Windows.

    With a glazing career that began in 1989 – including two ventures into the oil and gas industry – Mike shares his journey back to the home improvements sector and into his current role, leading brands such as First Home Improvements, SevenDay Windows, and Universal Composite Doors.

    Mike discusses:

    -What makes each brand unique and how they complement one another in the windows and doors market

    -The challenges and opportunities of managing multiple glazing industry companies

    - How customer service is at the heart of the business and why homeowner buying habits are changing

    Plus, Mike takes part in our quick-fire round, revealing his love for Norwich City FC, the one thing he can’t live without, and the inspirational people who have shaped his career in home improvements.

    Whether you’re in the glazing sector, or the wider construction sector, work with double glazing and composite doors, or just want insights from a business leader, this episode is packed with value.

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    23 mins