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Two Homes

Two Homes

By: Sarah Rhodes
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Two Homes, the podcast where we explore the relationship between our inner world and the planet we live on. Because sustainability that isn’t embodied doesn’t last - and wellbeing that stays surface-level doesn’t change anything.​ This podcast is an invitation to look deeper. To understand how our nervous systems, beliefs, and patterns shape the systems we’re trying to reform - and how real change starts closer to home than we think.​

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  • 19. The G in ESG

    19. The G in ESG
    Aug 11 2026
    Today we complete the ESG picture with the G: governance. I challenge the idea that this is boring, this episode uncovers how governance is actually the glue that creates successful outcomes. It's the part that determines whether everything else actually works. From the gap between what gets agreed in the boardroom and what happens on the ground, to the split incentive problem between asset owners and operators, to what it actually means for a GM to be a governance actor, in this episode I aim to bring the G to life in a way that's practical, honest and directly relevant to how hospitality businesses make decisions every day.We look at what governance theatre costs, what genuine tone from the top looks like, and why the most sustainably effective organisations aren't necessarily the ones with the most sophisticated policies, they're the ones where the outside actually matches the inside. Including an unexpected analogy at the end that might just change how you think about governance forever.Two Homes is for leaders who know that lasting performance, for people and planet, starts from the inside out. Two homes: the one we inhabit within, and the one we all share.Intro and outro music: Brooks, Kai EngelIf you'd like to ask a question:💌 Email - connect@plasticfreesea.co🎙️ Drop a question in the comment box on SpotifySign up to emails to get insights, event invitations and opportunities to connect and be inspired to integrate sustainability for good 🌟https://sarah-rhodes.myflodesk.com/newsTwo Homes is part of my business, Plastic Free Southeast Asia, an Australia Pacific specialist sustainability leadership consultancy, that is your partner in all authentic and aligned sustainability for tourism businesses and boards.Please rate, subscribe and review to help more people find the meaningful conversations, insights and more guests into the conversation that helps you grow your business, and tend to your wellbeing, sustainably.Follow on your preferred platforms:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/plasticfreeseaa/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/plasticfreeseaa/Sarah on LI https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-rhodes-67a9b724/Reference notes:B Corp Governance Standards — the six PSG principles referenced in this episode:PSG1 — The company establishes a public purpose to make a meaningful positive impactPSG2 — The company considers its impacts on stakeholders in decision-makingPSG3 — The company has adequate procedures to address stakeholder grievancesPSG4 — The company engages in responsible marketing and public relationsPSG5 — The company's social and environmental impact and stakeholder considerations are monitored by the highest governing body and integrated throughout the companyPSG6 — The company is transparent about its social and environmental performanceFull B Corp assessment: https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/certification/Australian Modern Slavery Act and register:https://www.modernslavery.gov.au/about-modern-slavery/modern-slavery-australiaASRS — Australian Sustainability Reporting Standards:https://www.auasb.gov.au/pronouncements/auditing-standards/asa/asa-2026-4/NABERS for Hotels:https://www.nabers.gov.au/ratings/hotelsCaption by Hyatt Sydney — community space and stakeholder engagement model:https://www.hyatt.com/caption-by-hyattIntrepid Travel wildlife policy:https://www.intrepidtravel.com/en/responsible-travel/animal-welfareTwo Homes Episode 3 — Why Compliance Won't Save the PlanetReferenced in this episodeTwo Homes Episode 11 — The Social in ESGReferenced in this episodeTwo Homes Episode 16 — The Emissions You Can't SeeReferenced in this episode
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    28 mins
  • 18. Duality: Permission to be in the Middle

    18. Duality: Permission to be in the Middle
    Aug 4 2026

    Our tendency is to think in extremes, in all or nothing approaches. You're either sustainable or you're not. You're ready to talk about your progress or you're not. You're doing enough or you're failing. This episode is about all the other possibilities available to us when we resist the extremes and allow creativity to step in.The most honest, effective and sustainable place to lead from is the middle.

    Drawing on the lotus growing through the mud, the permission to celebrate wins while acknowledging what's still in progress, and the practical reality of what it looks like to hold complexity without collapsing into either performance or paralysis, this is an episode about non-duality as a leadership practice.

    It's a more accurate and courageous way of showing up, for your team, your guests, your operation and yourself. If you've been waiting until everything is perfect before you claim progress, this episode is for you.

    Two Homes is for leaders who know that lasting performance, for people and planet, starts from the inside out. Two homes: the one we inhabit within, and the one we all share.

    If you'd like to ask a question:

    💌 Email - connect@plasticfreesea.co

    🎙️ Drop a question in the comment box on Spotify

    Sign up to emails to get insights, event invitations and opportunities to connect and be inspired to integrate sustainability for good 🌟

    https://sarah-rhodes.myflodesk.com/news

    Two Homes is part of my business, Plastic Free Southeast Asia - an Australia Pacific specialist sustainability leadership consultancy, that is your partner in all authentic and aligned sustainability for tourism businesses and boards.

    Please rate, subscribe and review to help more people find the meaningful conversations, insights and more guests into the conversation that helps you grow your business, and tend to your wellbeing, sustainably.

    Follow on your preferred platforms:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/plasticfreeseaa/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/plasticfreeseaa/

    Sarah on LI https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-rhodes-67a9b724/

    Intro and outro music: Brooks, Kai Engel
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    31 mins
  • 17. The Most Expensive Myth in Hospitality

    17. The Most Expensive Myth in Hospitality
    Jul 28 2026

    We've been operating under an assumption for decades: that sustainability costs money and profit comes first. This episode makes the case that the assumption is wrong and that for most hospitality businesses, not investing in sustainability is already costing more than investing would.

    Category by category, we investigate the financial case: energy and water, where payback periods are often measured in months not years; waste and procurement, where what goes in the bin is a cost before it even gets there; staff retention, where Australian hospitality's 38.7% annual turnover is a crisis hiding in plain sight; and revenue and yield, where engaged staff, word of mouth, and corporate travel credentials are stacking up wins.

    Then we look at what happens when all of these compound together over three to five years. And we ask the question that more operators need to be taking to their accountants: what is it actually costing us not to have started?

    Two Homes is for leaders who know that lasting performance, for people and planet, starts from the inside out. Two homes: the one we inhabit within, and the one we all share.

    If you'd like to ask a question:

    💌 Email - connect@plasticfreesea.co

    🎙️ Drop a question in the comment box on Spotify

    Sign up to emails to get insights, event invitations and opportunities to connect and be inspired to integrate sustainability for good 🌟

    https://sarah-rhodes.myflodesk.com/news

    Two Homes is part of my business, Plastic Free Southeast Asia - an Australia Pacific specialist sustainability leadership consultancy, that is your partner in all authentic and aligned sustainability for tourism businesses and boards.

    Please rate, subscribe and review to help more people find the meaningful conversations, insights and more guests into the conversation that helps you grow your business, and tend to your wellbeing, sustainably.

    Follow on your preferred platforms:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/plasticfreeseaa/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/plasticfreeseaa/

    Sarah on LI https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-rhodes-67a9b724/

    Intro and outro music: Brooks, Kai Engel
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    22 mins
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