Ned and Paul are joined by James Eller, who shares his story of trading in a future in graphic design for a career as a bass player that's now spanned five decades and seen him anchor records by the Teardrop Explodes, Julian Cope, the Pretenders, Billy Bragg, Kirsty MacColl, Damien Saez and Mark Knopfler to name just a few. As a longtime member of The The, James discusses the lasting brotherhood between his comrades past and present (including Johnny Marr, DC Collard and Barrie Cadogan), shares tales from making the band's seminal "Mind Bomb" and "Dusk" LPs and explains what made Matt Johnson's (last second) return to singing on the 2017 single "We Can't Stop What's Coming" so special. Come for the stories – stay for the philosophical ruminations on kindness, positivity and unobtrusive functionality.

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Ned and Paul are joined by world-class flamenco guitarist and composer Rafael Lloyd Iglesias for a rich discussion about the origins and history of flamenco, the musical magic that happens after the show, how a multicultural upbringing (and an early love for new romantic bands) informs his own approach to composing, working through otosclerosis (and the inspiration that comes from being able to hear again) and takeaways from time spent in the company of Paco de Lucía. Oh and also teaching Radiohead guitarist Ed O'Brien how to play flamenco.

Learn more about Rafael and discover more of his work at www.flamencoguitarist.com

"M21 Electro Flamenco" and "Sinfonía del Mar" are copyrighted by Rafael Lloyd Iglesias and used with permission of the composer.

On the back of Morgan Neville's new "Man on the Run" documentary, Ned and Paul reassess the importance of Linda McCartney in Paul's life from the breakup of the Beatles until her passing in 1998. Critical barbs about her musicianship and taking "the old lady" on the road (or, OK, even "Cook of the House") notwithstanding, the evidence shows that the wealth of nuggets from Paul McCartney's catalogue over that 28-year period very likely would not have existed without Linda's presence.