Folks, this may be the closest to a "Smartless" vibe that Michael and I ever get. Wide ranging witty banter, curious tales from the practice of law, insider intel from the fast-moving big-dealing VC world, and practical points to ponder for life and how to live it. Join us for a delightful 4 way conversation with these two lawyers/authors/entrepreneurs/venture capitalists, with a fresh take on on the Power of Perspective, the powerful life lessons of failing and trying again, the key ingredients of meaningful mentoring, and the importance of how we show up in every role, relationship, or project. Their new book is called How to Be a Lawyer: The Path From Law School to Success, and it's available... well, you know where (and they don't pay us to say their behemoth corporate name.)

Y'all, these millennials keep teaching me all kinds of stuff. Patrick Patino is a small firm practice renegade, thought leader, and pioneer.

Like many of his peers, the statement "That's the way we've always done it" gets no traction with him.

He has a passion for providing excellent client service in a way that is more efficient and affordable for the clients, and more sustainable for the professionals providing the services.

Pair that with some tech-savvy and an infectious creative energy, and yo have a stellar example of a different way to thrive in the practice of law. Enjoy!

(And please forgive the lack of a polished intro--this was another "get-to-know-you call" that had to become a podcast! :-) )

You can find Patrick and keep up with him here: https://patinoking.com/

Y'all, these millennials keep teaching me all kinds of stuff. Patrick Patino is a small firm practice renegade, thought leader, and pioneer.

Like many of his peers, the statement "That's the way we've always done it" gets no traction with him.

He has a passion for providing excellent client service in a way that is more efficient and affordable for the clients, and more sustainable for the professionals providing the services.

Pair that with some tech-savvy and an infectious creative energy, and yo have a stellar example of a different way to thrive in the practice of law. Enjoy!

(And please forgive the lack of a polished intro--this was another "get-to-know-you call" that had to become a podcast! :-) )

You can find Patrick and keep up with him here: https://patinoking.com/