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The TAC Podcast

The TAC Podcast

By: Thomas Aquinas College
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Welcome to the official podcast of Thomas Aquinas College. Each week, senior members of the teaching faculty open a window into the intellectual life of the College through conversations rooted in the Great Books and the pursuit of first principles. Together, they explore the foundational questions that have shaped Western civilization. Grounded in the liberal arts tradition, the podcast invites listeners into the same kind of thoughtful, rigorous dialogue that defines the classroom experience. From ancient mathematics and astronomy to philosophy, theology, and modern science, each episode seeks to understand the truth of things by returning to first principles. Occasionally featuring guest scholars and educators, the show offers rich discussions on the Great Books, liberal education, and the enduring relevance of classical learning. New episodes air weekly.Subscribe and join the conversation.2026
Episodes
  • Lincoln, Douglas, and the Moral Soul of America | EP19 The TAC Podcast
    Jun 25 2026

    Why did Abraham Lincoln believe America could not endure half slave and half free? Why did Stephen Douglas insist that the nation should stop debating the morality of slavery altogether?

    In this episode, TAC tutors John Finley and Chris Decaen examine the final two Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858, the famous political contest that helped launch Lincoln onto the national stage just two years before his election to the presidency. Together, they explore the central questions that divided the candidates: slavery, states' rights, popular sovereignty, the Dred Scott decision, and the future of the American republic.

    Far from being a mere political disagreement, the debates reveal a deeper conflict over whether slavery was simply a matter of local preference or a profound moral wrong. Lincoln presses Douglas on a question he struggles to answer: If slavery is wrong, can anyone have a right to it? Douglas, meanwhile, argues that preserving the Union requires leaving the issue to the states and avoiding national confrontation.

    Along the way, John and Chris discuss:

    • The Missouri Compromise and its collapse

    • The Kansas-Nebraska Act and popular sovereignty

    • The Dred Scott decision and its consequences

    • Lincoln's understanding of natural rights and human equality

    • Douglas's defense of states' rights

    • Why the debates foreshadowed the coming Civil War

    • The relationship between morality, law, and politics

    The Lincoln-Douglas debates remain some of the most remarkable public arguments in American history. Their questions about justice, political authority, and the moral foundations of a free society remain as relevant today as they were in 1858.

    Learn more about Thomas Aquinas College at https://www.thomasaquinas.edu

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    57 mins
  • The Devil According to Dante, Milton, Dostoevsky, and Shakespeare
    Jun 18 2026

    For centuries, some of the greatest writers in the Western tradition have wrestled with a troubling question: What does evil actually look like? In this episode, join TAC tutors John Finley and Chris Decaen as they examine four unforgettable portrayals of the devil in literature: Dante's silent and defeated Satan, Milton's charismatic rebel in Paradise Lost, Dostoevsky's unsettling visitor in The Brothers Karamazov, and Shakespeare's master deceiver, Iago, in Othello. Along the way, they explore pride, envy, deception, despair, temptation, and the strange ways evil presents itself to the human soul. Why does Dante's Satan never speak? Why do readers often find Milton's Satan compelling? Is Dostoevsky's devil real, imagined, or something in between? And what makes Iago one of the most chilling villains ever written? Join us every week for a conversation about the literary imagination and what the great authors reveal about the human condition. Learn more about Thomas Aquinas College at https://www.thomasaquinas.edu

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    1 hr and 19 mins
  • The Liberal Arts: Luxury or Essential? | E17 The TAC Podcast
    Jun 11 2026

    Is a liberal arts education a "luxury item" for the elite, or a necessary foundation for the human soul? In this episode of The TAC Podcast, host John Finley is joined by alumnus and tech veteran Nathan Haggard to tackle the modern objections to a Great Books education. From the "All-In" podcast's criticisms to Elon Musk's focus on first principles, we examine why the world's most successful technologists often miss the mark on what education is truly for. We discuss the "rigor" of the hard sciences within the liberal arts, why the internet can't replace a classroom, and why AI — no matter how powerful — will never be able to grasp the first principles of the "Good Life." In this episode, we discuss: The "BS" Degree Objection: Addressing the student debt crisis and the "tourism" approach to humanities. The Hard Sciences of TAC: Why 4 years of math and science are core to the liberal arts. Scientific Method vs. First Principles: Why even physics rests on metaphysical assumptions. The Trap of Usefulness: How the market economy diminishes our view of human worth. AI and Values: Why machine intelligence has no concept of "The Good."

    00:00 – Introduction

    01:15 – Addressing the "Liberal Arts BS Degree" Criticism

    03:19 – The Hidden Rigor: 4 Years of Math and Science at TAC

    05:18 – Engaging with Original Thinkers: Newton, Descartes, and Euclid

    08:21 – Is Education Just for the Elite? Addressing the "Ripoff" Claim

    10:05 – Information vs. Thinking: Why the Internet isn't a School

    12:50 – Aristotle vs. Nietzsche: Searching for Truth in a Group

    16:04 – The Meta-Narrative of Science: Its Own Greatest Limitation

    18:45 – The "Dark Mist" of Learning: Why Frustration is Progress

    23:10 – Challenging Elon Musk: What Do Physics Principles Rest On?

    25:55 – The Goal of Life: Why the Scientific Method Can't Tell Us "Why"

    32:20 – Bill Gates & the Market Economy: Is Education Only for a Job?

    37:25 – The "Lazy River" Problem: Consumerism in Modern Colleges

    41:50 – The Hierarchy of Knowledge: Why Your Worldview Controls Everything

    47:45 – Lived Experience vs. Intellectual Training

    53:00 – Analytical Skills: Why "Critical Thinking" isn't Enough

    58:40 – The Author as Professor: The Unique Pedagogy of TAC

    1:04:10 – Steve Jobs and the "Heart Singing" Mystery

    1:06:10 – What ChatGPT Says About Values and First Principles

    1:09:00 – The Risk of Emulating Machines: Why Humans Must Lead

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    1 hr and 11 mins
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