Shane and Jenna are joined by social media strategist and L Studio Media founder Lisi Metzger for a conversation that feels like catching up with an old friend… if that friend also happens to be a walking brainstorm machine.

From the moment the episode starts, things go off the rails in the best way possible as Shane and Jenna battle over one very important question before Jenna’s move to New York City: should she hire a Task Rabbit to assemble her furniture, or is building it yourself a rite of passage? The debate quickly turns into a hilarious generational standoff about independence, convenience, and surviving IKEA-level stress in a tiny NYC apartment.

But underneath the laughs is a fascinating conversation about creativity, entrepreneurship, social media, and how Lisi built her business, L Studio Media. Lisi shares her unconventional path from blogging in the early days of the internet to becoming a sought-after social media strategist helping brands find their “it factor” online.

Jenna officially crowns Lisi “The OG Chat GPT” after Shane describes how she’s the person you call when you need ideas, recommendations, strategy, or instant creative problem-solving. Long before AI existed, Lisi was already the human version of it — generating content ideas, marketing angles, and big-picture strategy on demand.

The conversation also dives into:

• How social media marketing has evolved over the years
• Why short-form video is still dominating Instagram
• The pressure creators feel to constantly adapt to platform changes
• The difference between followers and real engagement
• Why saves, shares, and DMs matter more than follower counts
• The changing behavior of Gen Z users online
• Building a business during the pandemic
• Why authenticity still matters on social media

It’s a funny, insightful, and very real conversation about creativity, career pivots, motherhood, entrepreneurship, and surviving social media in 2026.

Keywords: social media strategy, Instagram trends, Gen Z, Gen X, NYC move, Task Rabbit, entrepreneurship, women in business, content creation, creator economy, social media marketing, podcast, marketing strategy, small business, video content, influencer marketing, L Studio Media, The Social Dialogue Podcast.

Connect with and follow Lisi at https://www.instagram.com/lstudiomedia/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisi-metzger-82aa613/

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Two generations, one conversation… well, almost.

This week, it’s just Shane - because Jenna is officially in graduation chaos mode (finals, celebrations, moving to NYC… all of it). But the timing couldn’t be more perfect for this conversation.

Shane sits down with recruiter, career coach, and author Nicki Perchik to talk about what’s actually happening in today’s job market - and what Gen Z (and honestly, all of us) are getting wrong about getting hired.

Nicki has spent years helping companies hire top talent and coaching professionals at every level. And lately, she’s been working closely with college students and recent grads navigating that frustrating “you need experience to get experience” cycle.

This episode is packed with straight talk and practical advice—no fluff.

What we cover:

• Why the job market isn’t as hopeless as it feels (and what to do instead of panicking)
• The biggest mistakes candidates make in interviews (this one is big)
• Why networking still beats everything else—yes, still
• What actually matters more than your degree
• How to stand out when you have little to no experience
• The truth about your first job (and why it’s not supposed to be perfect)
• How social media can quietly cost you a job offer
• The skills that will matter most in an AI-driven world

Nicki also shares what she tells her own kids—and it’s the kind of advice every parent and graduating senior needs to hear right now.

If you have a college student, a recent grad, or you’re navigating your own career shift, this is one to send, save, and come back to.

🔗 Connect with Nicki

📘 Book: The Recruiter’s Truly Simple Guide to Job Searching, Interviewing & Getting Hired
👉 https://www.amazon.com/Recruiters-Truly-Simple-Searching-Interviewing/dp/B0D48193JB

📧 Email: nikki@thenlpgroup.net

🌐 Company: The NLP Group (Executive Search + Career Coaching)

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Two generations - one converation, and this one feels full circle.

In our very first episode of The Social Dialogue Podcast, we talked about something every college student (and every parent) struggles with… finding your people.

Jenna was a freshman, in the thick of it. The uncertainty, the friend groups that didn’t stick, the feeling of being left out, and the question everyone quietly asks themselves… will I find my friends?

Now, as Jenna prepares to graduate from college in early May, we’re rerunning this episode with a completely different perspective.

Because she did.

She found her people. Real friendships. The kind that last beyond college. The kind she searched for her entire childhood.

In this episode, Jenna shares what those early days were really like, how she navigated the ups and downs of friendships in college, and what helped her ultimately find the right circle. Her advice for current college freshmen is honest, practical, and reassuring.

Shane brings in the parent perspective, talking about how hard it is to let go, what parents get wrong during that first year, and why stepping back is often the best thing you can do.

If you’re a college student trying to figure out where you fit in, or a parent watching your child go through it, this conversation will hit home.

Because finding your people takes time. But when you do, it’s everything.

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Keywords: college friendships, finding friends in college, college freshman advice, Gen Z college experience, parenting college students, letting go as a parent, mother daughter podcast, Gen X Gen Z podcast, social media podcast

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Jenna: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenna-shaps-59b1a9234/

Shane: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-shaps/

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