Ever have one of those moments where you just want to scream a little? Caregiving can feel like that, especially when well-meaning people say things that completely miss the mark. Those small comments can add up, and before you know it, you’re carrying a kind of loneliness that’s hard to put into words.

Whether you’re supporting a loved one through a terminal diagnosis, navigating aging, walking alongside someone at the end of life, or grieving after they’re gone, the “in-between” losses can feel overwhelming. Life keeps moving all around you, and somehow you’re expected to keep up.

And if you’re a sandwiched caregiver? You might find yourself craving moments of joy in the middle of it all - only to be met with guilt (or even a little side-eye) when you actually have fun. Simple, right?

In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Pod, Eliesa and Robyn sit down with Jessica Kim, founder of Ianacare (“I Am Not Alone Care”). Jessica has spent most of her adult life as a caregiver while raising three kids, and she’s turned that experience into a mission to support others navigating the same challenges. Together, we talk about the loneliness of caregiving, finding connection, and giving yourself permission to hold both grief and joy at the same time.

Because at the end of the day, you’re not alone—we’re in this together.

Takeaways

• Loneliness creeps in and can be all consuming when you’re a caregiver.
• The fork in the road: Do you need to leave your career to be a caregiver?
• Our Mindset: How we reframe things is huge - we need to balance JOY in caregiving
• The THREE day rule - how have you tended to your priorities over the course of three days?
  • Kids + activities
  • Marriage
  • Friends
  • Wellness / gym
  • Work
  • Faith
• How does full time caregiving effect our children? Do they see our stress as much as we feel it?
• Culture Change: Lets not make others feel guilty while seeking JOY while they are GRIEVING
• Ianacare: How this company supports families and helps them with loneliness. Also: a HUGE Medicare GUIDE program for families with Alzheimer's!

Links + Resources:

Ianacare Website

Follow Ianacare on Instagram

Caring for someone with Dementia? See if you Qualify for the Medicare GUIDE Program - at NO cost to you!

Chapters:

00:00 Intros and our Meet Cute with Jessica Kim

02:29 Jessica's Caregiving Story

22:30 Mindshift: Reframing Priorities in Caregiving

29:04 Impact of Caregiving on Children

38:07 Seeking Joy Amidst Grief

43:47 The Loneliness of Caregiving

47:23 How caregiving changes you

55:05 IANACare and a Medicare funded program for Caregivers

01:02:59 Engagement and Community Building

01:03:35 Outro

Caregiving in the Sandwich Generation is already a full-contact sport. One minute you’re negotiating with a toddler over broccoli, the next your parents are on the phone… also negotiating, but with guilt trips and passive-aggressive commentary. Cool, cool, cool. So what’s the move when everyone needs something and someone’s being downright difficult?

In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Pod, Robyn and Eliesa talk with family mediator Molly Darsow, owner of Still Waters Mediation. (Yes—family mediator. Because sometimes families need a referee.) Molly shares expert advice on setting boundaries with parents, managing emotional triggers, and improving communication in challenging family dynamics.If you’ve ever thought “there has to be a better way to deal with this,” this one’s for you.

If you’re caring for aging parents while raising kids, navigating sibling tension, or just trying not to lose your mind during one more “interesting” phone call—this episode will give you tools, validation, and maybe even a little laugh.

Takeaways

• We are born into family systems and when our parents age or pass away, those roles within the system are wildly disrupted.
• We always hold onto our inner child.
• When we’re family, we all know each other’s triggers - that never leaves us.
• There might be a generational difference in how we talk about our emotions.
• There is A LOT of vulnerability in aging.
• Shutting down bad behaviors is totally legit.
• It sounds annoying but acceptance, compassion and time are three of the best ways to handle a difficult parent.
• Communication takes active practice on everyone’s part and Molly gives tips on doing this effectively.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction with Molly Darsow of Still Waters Mediation

02:55 What is Mediation and why might I need it?

09:40 Managing Triggers and Emotional Responses

11:39 Strategies for Difficult Conversations

30:31 Establishing Boundaries with Parents

33:47 Acknowledging Loss and Change

38:49 The Driving Conversation - is anything more difficult than this?

48:18 What to do when a parent is guilting you?

58:07 Sibling Relationships and Triangulation

01:05:50 Managing Difficult Parents in Front of Children

01:11:11 Outro

Links and Resources:

Still Waters Mediation

Care out Loud Conversation starter Cards

What is it really like for the Spouses in The Sandwich Generation?! We know it’s emotional for us caregivers, but what is it like on the other side of a relationship? In this episode, Eliesa Johnson and Robyn Frank hand the mic over to their spouses, Nick and EZ, for a refreshingly honest (and occasionally hilarious) take on:

• What actually irritates them (yes, we go there)
• How to keep the spark alive when you're exhausted and emotionally tapped out
• Raising kids while juggling everyone else’s needs
• And what support really looks like—beyond “just tell me what you need”

Spoiler: Love is strong… but so are opinions about buying milk!

If you’re in a relationship in the Sandwich Generation—whether you’re the caregiver or the one wondering how to help—this one’s for you.

Because sometimes, laughter is the only thing keeping everyone sane.

Takeaways

• Everyone is in The Sandwich Generation together when you’re married but in different roles.
• How can a spouse help with the overwhelm of being sandwiched?
• When your spouse takes a back seat - and making them a priority again!
• How are we raising the kids in the middle of it all?
• Keeping the fire alive - intimacy and humor during tough times.
• It takes a village - asking for help!

Chapters

00:00 Reflections on Marriage: Expectations vs. Reality: Getting Married Later in Life and Entering The Sandwich Generation

10:20 When the caregiver is overwhelmed, what's a spouse to do?

18:53 Hormones are a big deal in The Sandwich Generation

30:18 When your spouse takes a back seat and making them a priority again

36:27 Arguments

39:27 So what do you really think of your in laws?

45:36 What about us? What does our aging look like?

48:01 Lets talk about the kids + grief

54:33 Making things easier for the spouse that is overwhelmed by caregiving

59:09 What makes our spouse sexy now in The Sandwich Generation?

01:05:36 Outro