Gad Saad is back and this conversation went everywhere. He is an evolutionary behavioral scientist, bestselling author of The Parasitic Mind, and his new book is called Suicidal Empathy.
We get into what suicidal empathy actually means and why he compares it to a hairworm that drives a cricket to drown itself, why open border policies are the most damaging real world example of it, the British grooming gang scandal and the specific identity of the men involved that nobody wanted to name, why social scientists abandoned biology entirely out of fear it could be misused, the blank slate excuse used for repeat felons and why it removes all personal accountability, why Gad had to go through a brutal visa process to legally enter the United States despite his prominence, why the most common email he receives ends with please don't use my name, the moment Drew Brees apologized for loving his own country, and why Gad says Lionel Messi, the most famous athlete on the planet, refuses to ever take a position on anything.

This is one of the most direct, unflinching conversations we have had on this show.

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Three college athletes came on this show and I am still thinking about this conversation.

Maddie, MK and Lainey never asked for any of this. They went to college to compete, earn scholarships and build their futures. Instead they found themselves watching their sports be taken over by biological males, losing roster spots, losing medals and in some cases watching their coaches stay silent because their jobs depended on it. They took it to court anyway. And now they are waiting for the Supreme Court to rule on whether states can even make sex-based distinctions in athletics.

In this episode I also sit down with Kristen Waggoner, CEO and President of the Alliance Defending Freedom, who has been litigating this fight for over a decade. She breaks down the two legal questions before the court, what a win actually means for girls across the country, and why she says lies cannot survive without censorship. We also hear from the girls themselves about the death threats, the teammates who would not stand with them, the coaches who stayed quiet, the male athletes whose own teammates said it was unfair, and why every single one of these women says she would do it all over again.

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I sat down with Dave Rubin in his studio, and we went everywhere. No topic was off limits, and it may be my favorite conversation we've ever had on camera together.

We get into why Dave says the LGBTQ acronym has letters that have absolutely nothing to do with each other and why he thinks the trans movement is actually the most anti-gay movement you could possibly create. The moment he watched the trans flag physically start eating the rainbow flag on a crosswalk in West Hollywood and why he says it is a perfect metaphor for what has happened. Why the activist class could not stop after winning marriage equality and what the machine behind it actually wants. His honest take on the 2028 Republican bench and who steps up if things go wrong at the midterms. Why Tucker Carlson now sounds like a leftist. The Spencer Pratt mayoral race in LA and what Larry Elder told him about why it probably cannot be won. Why he has not watched a single minute of NBA basketball despite it being his favorite sport his entire life. The moment a kid screamed a racial slur at Sage from a truck in the Florida Panhandle and how she chose to handle it. And why he says some of the people smiling at him during the Jubilee surrounded video were the ones he was most afraid of.

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