The Return on Kindness: A Conversation with Brian Biro (Part One)

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The Return on Kindness: A Conversation with Brian Biro (Part One)

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In this episode, Clint sits down with Brian Biro, known as “America’s Breakthrough Speaker,” a former corporate vice president, elite swim coach, and author of 16 books including “The ROI of Kindness.” Brian shares how kindness, respect, and human connection are not soft skills, but powerful drivers of leadership, culture, and performance.

Drawing on lessons from legendary coach John Wooden, Brian explains how belief, expectation, and encouragement unlock hidden potential in individuals, teams, and entire organizations. The conversation explores the difference between being nice and being truly kind, why respect fuels growth, and how leaders can build cultures where people feel valued, energized, and inspired to contribute their best.

Packed with practical stories and real-world examples, Brian demonstrates how kindness improves collaboration, reduces stress, strengthens trust, and ultimately delivers measurable results. This is the first part of a two-part conversation.

Topics Covered:

Brian’s leadership journey from coaching to corporate transformation
Lessons learned from legendary coach John Wooden
Why kindness is a leadership superpower, not a weakness
The difference between being nice and being kind
How belief and expectation shape performance (The Pygmalion Effect)
Breaking down silos and building stronger team collaboration
Respect as the foundation for growth and connection
The measurable business impact of kindness and culture

Links:

Brian’s website - https://brianbiro.com
Brian’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianbiro/
Brian’s book, “The ROI of Kindness” - https://amzn.to/4a44P5S
Clint’s website - www.clintpadgett.com
Clint’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/clintpadgett/
Clint’s book, “How Teams Triumph” - https://amzn.to/3JWD2Ka
Clint’s company, Project Success Inc - https://projectsuccess.com/

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