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The Remarkable SaaS Podcast

The Remarkable SaaS Podcast

By: Ton Dobbe
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For B2B SaaS founders who are done blending in.

The Remarkable SaaS Podcast features unfiltered conversations with SaaS founders navigating the real challenges of building software that matters.

Hosted by Ton Dobbe, author of The Remarkable Effect, each episode zooms in on one of the 10 traits that define remarkable software companies—like offering something truly valuable and desirable, and aiming to be different, not just better.

Some guests are scaling fast. Others are still in the trenches—but all share hard-won lessons about what it really takes to create pull, shorten sales cycles, and become the only logical choice in their market.

Expect:

Honest conversations—no hype, no theory

Tactical insights from sales-led SaaS founders

Practical ideas you can apply to sharpen your product and your positioning

If you're building a SaaS business that deserves attention—not just more noise—this podcast is for you.

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Episodes
  • #409 – How Renaud Charvet chose ownership over speed — and made Ringover impossible to copy
    Jun 24 2026

    A story about what compounds when you don't take the shortcut.

    This episode is for sales-led SaaS founders who invested to grow fast but now realize they forgot to grow their differentiation.

    Most software companies buy speed — they build on someone else's foundation — and never count the cost. Renaud Charvet, co-founder and US CEO of Ringover, took the opposite path. He started in 2005 selling cheap international calls, watched Skype and WhatsApp kill that business, and built something new from scratch. Bootstrapped for fifteen years, then raised to expand — and moved his family to the US to make it work. He's never once taken the shortcut.

    And this inspired me to invite Renaud to my podcast. We explore how choosing ownership over speed creates an edge competitors can't copy. Renaud shares how he thinks about what's worth owning, where to focus, and what actually makes customers stay. You'll discover why the slow, expensive choice compounded into something no shortcut could match.

    We also zoom in on two of the 10 traits that define remarkable software companies: – Aim to be different, not just better – Acknowledge you cannot please everyone

    Renaud's journey proves remarkable companies don't copy the playbook — they own what others rent and let the advantage compound.

    Here's one of Renaud's quotes that captures how he thinks about building an edge:

    "Focus — it might feel slower in the short term, but it compounds much faster in the long term."

    By listening to this episode, you'll learn:

    • What you give up the day you build on someone else's stack
    • What changes when you stop selling features and start selling outcomes
    • What he did when the US market ignored him
    • Why the customers easiest to win are the ones who leave

    For more information about the guest from this week:

    Guest: Renaud Charvet, co-founder and US CEO of Ringover

    Website: ringover.com

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    47 mins
  • #408 – How Stan Markuze refused the me-too game and made buying a no-brainer
    Jun 17 2026

    A story about choosing the one thing no competitor would copy.

    This episode is for sales-led SaaS founders stuck in a crowded category, wondering how to escape the price-and-features war

    In a crowded category, most founders just try to win it. Stan Markuze, CEO of Balance, did something else. Five companies in, with two auto-tech exits and a decade in real estate, he'd seen what a price war looks like. So when seven companies were selling the same treasury tool, he refused to be the seventh.

    And this inspired me to invite Stan to my podcast. We explore how refusing to compete on everyone else's terms creates an edge no rival can copy. Stan shares why he walked away from a feature-and-price war, and what turns a quiet user into a vocal one. You'll discover what happened to his sales cycle once buying his product stopped being a debate.

    We also zoom in on two of the 10 traits that define remarkable software companies: – Aim to be different, not just better – Turn customers into fans

    Stan's story proves remarkable companies don't fight harder inside the category—they change what they get measured on.

    Here's one of Stan's quotes that captures how he thinks about the standard SaaS model:

    "We turned the business model upside down. Usually, you pay an annual SaaS fee for a treasury management product. What we do is, if people sweep cash through our platform, for those who sweep a certain threshold, we would actually give them the treasury management system at no cost, because we're able to monetize the automatic sweeps."

    By listening to this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why removing friction you can't see beats chasing growth you can
    • What makes an ROI concrete enough to close on the first call
    • Why the metric you stop tracking matters as much as the one you keep
    • How a tight niche turns happy customers into a referral flywheel

    For more information about the guest from this week:

    Guest: Stan Markuze, CEO of Balance

    Website: balancecash.io

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    44 mins
  • #407 – How Martin Gourdeau refused the commodity race and added $1M ARR in 9 months
    Jun 10 2026

    A story about choosing the harder fight on purpose.

    This episode is for SaaS founders wondering why adding more features to their niche product isn't creating the edge it used to.

    Most niche SaaS races to add features—and wonders why margins shrink.

    Martin Gourdeau, CEO of Vacation Tracker, took a different path. After running Workleap as President and GM, he took a year off to study what's actually changing in software—then chose a 22-person bootstrapped company over another large stage.

    And he didn't pick Vacation Tracker by accident. He picked it because he believes the next wave of software will be won by a very different kind of company.

    And this inspired me to invite Martin to my podcast. We explore what he saw in that year off—and why it shaped a very different bet on what wins next. Martin shares why a small bootstrapped company now has an edge most large companies will never get back, why he changed the one number that decides when his whole team gets a raise, and what kind of SaaS he thinks AI will quietly destroy.

    We also zoom in on two of the 10 traits that define remarkable software companies: – Aim to be different, not just better – Create NEW value possibilities

    Martin's journey proves that the next wave of remarkable software companies won't look like the last.

    Here's something Martin observed that explains where he thinks the real opportunity sits:

    "High performers are notoriously bad at managing their energy levels because of this obsession to perform."

    By listening to this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why most SaaS companies are competing in the wrong layer
    • Why ARR-per-head changes the behavior of every employee
    • What high performers get wrong about their own energy
    • Why delegation to agents is the skill most leaders lack

    For more information about the guest from this week:

    Guest: Martin Gourdeau, CEO of Vacation Tracker

    Website: https://vacationtracker.io

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    52 mins
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