In this episode of The Real Table Talk Pod, Dr. Alicia Watkins, Tiana Von Johnson, and Char Curry have a real conversation about accountability, apologies, shame, ego, and the courage it takes to make amends.

Why is it so hard for some people to say “I’m sorry”? Why do people become defensive when they know they caused harm? And how does shame block repair in relationships?

We talk about the difference between guilt and shame, why accountability can feel threatening, and how ego can keep people stuck in silence, blame, avoidance, or excuses. We also explore what a real apology sounds like, what making amends requires, and why healthy relationships need repair — not just regret.

This conversation is for anyone who has struggled to apologize, anyone who is waiting on accountability, and anyone learning how to move from defensiveness into emotional maturity.

Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for therapy, mental health treatment, medical advice, or crisis support. If you are in crisis or need immediate help, please contact 988 in the U.S. or your local emergency support service.

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Hosted by Dr. Alicia Watkins, Tiana Von Johnson, and Char Curry

Not every relationship ends with a conversation. Sometimes it ends with silence… confusion… and a thousand unanswered questions.

In this episode of The Real Table Talk Pod, we’re talking about the kind of breakup that leaves you stuck — replaying moments, questioning yourself, and searching for closure that may never come.

We unpack:

• Why people leave without explanation
• The emotional toll of not getting closure
• How overthinking keeps you stuck in the past
• And how to begin creating your own closure so you can finally move forward

This is for anyone who’s ever been left without answers… and had to learn how to heal anyway.

🎙 Hosted by Alicia Watkins, PhD, LCSW, Tiana Von Johnson, & Char Curry

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⚠️ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for therapy or mental health treatment. If you are in crisis, please seek support from a licensed professional or contact 988 (U.S.).

In this episode of The Real Table Talk Pod, we talk about men, therapy, intimacy, trust, ego, emotional distance, and the pain that shows up between men and women when healing has not happened.

Women have been working on themselves — going to therapy, reading the books, learning their patterns, and trying to communicate better. But many women are still hurting from the lack of closeness, emotional safety, and intimacy in relationships.

This conversation asks the real question: What happens when women are doing the healing work, but men have not been given enough space, support, or permission to do the same?

Dr. Alicia Watkins, Tiana Von Johnson, and Char Curry discuss the pressure men face to protect, provide, perform, stay strong, and hide their pain. We also explore how transactional relationships, trust issues, ego, trauma, and emotional shutdown can create distance between men and women.

According to NIMH, men are less likely than women to receive mental health treatment, and CDC data shows mental health treatment among U.S. adults increased from 19.2% in 2019 to 23.9% in 2023.

This episode is not about blaming men or women. It is about naming the pain, understanding the distance, and asking what healing could look like if men had safe places to be vulnerable too.

Char Curry closes the conversation with her unique perspective on men, relationships, and the struggles that often go unseen.

Episode 7: Men Need Therapy Too: Healing the Distance Between Men and Women

Hosted by: Dr. Alicia Watkins, Tiana Von Johnson, and Char Curry Follow the show: @RealTableTalkPod Contact: info@realtabletalkpod.com

Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. It is not therapy and does not create a therapist-client relationship. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, please contact a licensed mental health professional or call/text 988 in the U.S. for immediate support.