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The New For Purpose CEO

The New For Purpose CEO

By: Michelle Cutler and Danielle Ballantine
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Ever wondered what happens when CEOs of purpose-driven organisations sit down together for a chat? With 30 years’ of combined experience in the for-purpose space, we knew these conversations should be stored and shared!! We tackle the real questions: How do you build and sustain a thriving organisational culture? How do you manage relationships with your board and your chair? How do you preserve your peace of mind while carrying the weight of responsibility of being a for-purpose CEO. For those who are new to the role or eyeing it on the horizon, the importance of a support network cannot be overstated. This is why this podcast was created - to be a valuable source of information and support, offering ideas and insights you can implement in your organisation immediately. We share the stories and challenges CEOs tell each other when we get together - and chat through how to address issues unique to NFP CEOs in every episode. Wherever you are in your NPF CEO journey, there’s something here for you. We are about our community supporting each other. Creating more impact and driving better outcomes for the sector and those that we serve is what we are all about. LINKS Website: https://thenfpceo.com.au/ This podcast is recorded on country of the Cameraygal and Darramuragal Peoples.Copyright 2026 Michelle Cutler and Danielle Ballantine Economics Management Management & Leadership Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Lets talk about Constitutions
    Jan 28 2026

    Constitutions don’t usually top the list of things CEOs want to talk about, but they should. In this solo episode, we take a practical, CEO-focused look at constitutions and the provisions that may trip leaders up, especially around AGMs, membership, and board governance.

    This episode was sparked by multiple conversations with CEOs at the end of 2025 who discovered that their constitutional provisions no longer aligned with how their organisation actually operates. That misalignment can create real risk often at the worst possible moment.

    This is not legal advice, but it is a walkthrough of what CEOs need to understand, watch for, and actively manage.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why constitutions matter more than you think
    • Objects clauses: basic hygiene
    • Membership: where things get messy fast
    • Disputes and disciplinary provisions
    • AGMs: the hidden traps
    • Board elections and director appointments
    • Board composition and structure
    • Director terms, rotation, and exits
    • Payments, alternates, and delegation
    • Changing the constitution

    As a CEO, you don’t need to memorise your constitution but you do need to understand it well enough to spot risk, plan timelines, and avoid preventable governance crises.

    Connect with us:

    LinkedIn: The NFP CEO: Overview | LinkedIn

    Website: thenfpceo.com.au

    Michelle Cutler: Michelle Cutler | LinkedIn

    Danielle Ballantine: Danielle Ballantine | LinkedIn

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    23 mins
  • Leaders Who Hold People Accountable
    Jan 21 2026

    How do you hold people to account without damaging trust or becoming the bottleneck?

    In this episode of The NFP CEO, Michelle and Danielle unpack practical ways CEOs and senior leaders can build a culture of accountability, set clear expectations, and lift performance, without micromanaging or avoiding tough conversations.

    In this episode, you’ll learn how to:

    • Set up accountability from the start so difficult conversations are easier later
    • Shift from managing tasks to leading for outcomes
    • Avoid micromanagement while still staying across delivery
    • Use clear guardrails: authority, risk appetite, values and boundaries
    • Build a “no surprises” culture where issues are raised early
    • Hold people to account without becoming the problem-solver-in-chief
    • Stop “taking the monkey” and keep accountability with the right person
    • Handle underperformance in a way that strengthens, not weakens, culture
    • Use accountability as a tool for leadership development, not just compliance
    • Create consistency across your executive and senior leadership teams

    Connect with us:

    LinkedIn: The NFP CEO: Overview | LinkedIn

    Website: thenfpceo.com.au

    Michelle Cutler: Michelle Cutler | LinkedIn

    Danielle Ballantine: Danielle Ballantine | LinkedIn

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    31 mins
  • Leadership Reflections from a 1st Time CEO with Alex Ksugas
    Jan 14 2026

    Starting your first CEO role is never simple and stepping into one with a powerful purpose-driven mission adds an entirely new layer of expectation, and personal growth.

    In this episode, Michelle and Danielle sit down with Alex Ksugas, CEO of Mojo Crowe to discuss what it really feels like to transition from the corporate world into leading a values-based organisation founded by Ben Crowe. Alex speaks openly about pressure, people-pleasing, decision-making, team culture, and redefining success as a leader. This is a deeply human, practical, and encouraging conversation for any CEO navigating uncertainty, complexity, and the constant visibility of leadership.

    What We Cover
    • The Reality of Being a First-Time CEO
    • Leadership Visibility & Human Impact
    • Managing pressure while remaining authentic
    • What it’s like leading an organisation built on someone else’s life’s work
    • Decision-Making, People-Pleasing & Tough Calls
    • Letting go of others’ opinions without losing compassion
    • Shifting from fear to curiosity when facing the unknown
    • Why celebrating small wins protects you and your team from burnout
    • Perspective-taking as a protective factor for CEO wellbeing

    Guest: Alex Ksugas, CEO of Mojo • The Perspective Company

    Connect with us:

    LinkedIn: The NFP CEO: Overview | LinkedIn

    Website: thenfpceo.com.au

    Michelle Cutler: Michelle Cutler | LinkedIn

    Danielle Ballantine: Danielle Ballantine | LinkedIn

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    35 mins
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