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The Landscape Business Growth Lab

The Landscape Business Growth Lab

By: Ron McCabe
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Real conversations with landscaping business owners about what it takes to build a company that lasts. Each episode is hosted by Ron McCabe, founder of Everbearing Services. After a successful career as a technologist in the Silicon Valley, Ron transitioned to the green industry. For over 15 years, he has helped landscape companies transition from referrals to repeatable growth. Ron brings Silicon Valley growth strategies and out-of-the-box thinking to the digital marketing space. Each monthly episode features business owners and industry experts who share how they got started, what tools they rely on, and how they make critical decisions that keep their operations moving forward. They offer direct insights and give helpful advice on how to grow. Guests discuss how they got started in the landscaping business, marketing tips, and business strategies. Each episode focuses on the real-world decisions that drive sustainable growth. The Landscape Business Growth Lab is produced by Everbearing Services, a digital marketing agency focused exclusively on the landscape industry.Copyright 2025 Ron McCabe Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales Politics & Government
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  • What Happens When You Build A Landscape Business Around Your Values With Todd Blossom
    Jan 26 2026

    Ron McCabe sits down with Todd Blossom, owner of Blossom in Portland, Oregon, to talk about how a values driven landscape company takes shape over time. Ron walks through Todd's early years in the field, what pulled him toward permaculture, and how caring for land, people, and city infrastructure came together in one business. Todd talks about right livelihood, what it means to build a company that matches his life, and how he keeps work grounded in observation instead of trends.

    Ron also talks with Todd about the stormwater retrofit work he led with the City of Portland, his move into electric maintenance equipment, and how native plants and lawn conversions support birds, soil, and long term garden health. Todd shares how contracts with the city helped him ride out market swings, why his team now leans on clear systems and SOPs, and what it takes to grow at a steady pace without losing the heart of the company.

    Chapters:

    1. 00:07 - Learning Through Mistakes in Permaculture
    2. 03:38 - The Journey of Growth and Self-Discovery in Landscaping
    3. 12:20 - Embracing Permaculture Philosophy
    4. 15:08 - The Role of Stormwater Management in Urban Planning
    5. 24:14 - Transitioning to Electric Equipment in Landscaping
    6. 29:01 - The Importance of Team Dynamics in Business Growth
    7. 38:17 - Navigating Business Growth: The Conductor's Role
    8. 44:09 - The Importance of Nature in Our Lives
    9. 46:07 - Building an Ecological Mindset

    Short list Companies Mentioned
    1. Blossom (Blossom PDX)
    2. City of Portland
    3. Greenworks (equipment partner)
    4. Bird Alliance (Backyard Habitat Certification Program)

    Short list Websites Mentioned
    1. Blossom PDX: https://www.blossompdx.com
    2. Landscape Business Growth Lab: https://landscapebusinessgrowthlab.com
    3. Overbearing Services: https://overbearingservices.com
    4. Bird Alliance Backyard Habitat Program: https://birdallianceoregon.org/backyard-habitat-certification-program

    Guest Information

    Todd Blossom owns and leads Blossom, a Portland based company that focuses on ecologically sound residential and commercial landscapes. His work blends permaculture thinking, stormwater management, native plants, and electric maintenance services. Todd brings decades in the green industry and a...

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    49 mins
  • Father and Son Both Sold Their Landscape Companies: Here's What They Did Differently
    Dec 1 2025

    In this episode, I sat down with Will Bailey from Avid Landscape to talk about building a solid landscape business. Will shared his journey from working in his dad's mechanic shop to running operations at some of Seattle's top landscaping companies. We covered what it takes to grow without losing quality, the real experience of going through a business acquisition, and how to think about your exit when the time comes.

    Will and I also spent time talking about his late father, Rod Bailey, who was a true pioneer in bringing financial discipline to the landscaping industry. Rod's influence shaped not just Will's career but the entire Pacific Northwest landscape community. We got into the details of project management, the role of technology in scaling a service business, and what it means to build something that lasts.

    Chapters:

    • 00:06 - The Impact of Retirement on Life
    • 04:53 - The Legacy of a Landscape Business
    • 08:34 - The Influence of a Legacy: Rod Bailey's Impact on the Landscaping Industry
    • 14:50 - The Legacy of a Pioneer: Lessons from a Life in Business
    • 19:32 - Navigating Business Partnerships and Changes
    • 31:02 - Navigating Business Transitions: Insights on Selling and Succession Planning
    • 33:44 - The Importance of Staying Engaged After Retirement

    Takeaways:

    • The line between retirement and active life is thinner than we think, with many folks still having much to offer post-retirement, as highlighted in the discussions.
    • Investing in landscaping isn't just about aesthetics; it represents a growing business opportunity that can lead to significant financial returns and personal satisfaction.
    • The importance of personal integrity and accountability in business is paramount, as learned from the experiences shared about Rod Bailey's legacy in the industry.
    • Navigating business acquisitions can be complex, and understanding the motivations of buyers is crucial for a successful transition, as shared through personal experiences.
    • Technology is revolutionizing the landscaping industry, streamlining operations and enhancing customer service, which is vital for future growth and efficiency.
    • Considering different options for business transition, such as employee stock ownership plans (ESOP), can provide opportunities for legacy preservation and financial security for business owners.

    Companies Mentioned

    Avid Landscape

    Evergreen Services Corporation

    Trugreen Landcare

    Signature Landscape Services

    Monarch

    University of Washington

    Washington Association of Landscape Professionals (WALP)

    Aspire

    Websites Mentioned


    landscapebusinessgrowthlab.com


    Guest Information

    Will Bailey is the owner of Avid Landscape in Edmonds, Washington, with over 34 years of experience in the landscaping industry. He spent seven years at his father's company, Evergreen Services Corporation, followed by 15 years as a partner at Signature Landscape Services, and four years with Monarch after the acquisition. Will completed the Executive Development Program at the University of Washington and now runs Avid Landscape with his business partner.

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    37 mins
  • Scaling For Growth Sustainability In Landscaping - Strategizing Your Burn Rate
    Nov 3 2025

    Managing cash flow is a tricky beast, especially for landscaping businesses navigating seasonal fluctuations. In this episode, we dive deep into how growth can sometimes strangle your cash flow if you're not keeping a tight grip on your numbers. We chat with Joe and Carla from CycleCPA, who emphasize the importance of tracking fixed assets like mowers and trucks to ensure you’re getting your money’s worth. They lay out key performance indicators that every landscaping business should monitor as they scale up, including return on fixed assets and fixed asset turnover. If you’re looking to grow without falling into the cash crunch trap, we break down strategies to keep your operations running smoothly and your finances in check.

    Chapters:

    • 00:13 - Understanding Cash Flow Challenges
    • 08:41 - Understanding the Financial Metrics for Landscaping Businesses
    • 11:13 - Starting a Landscaping Business: Financial Fundamentals
    • 24:26 - Navigating Cash Flow Challenges in Growing Businesses
    • 29:28 - Navigating Cash Flow Challenges in Landscape Businesses

    We explore the challenges that seasonal companies face, highlighting how growth, while typically seen as a positive, can actually strain cash resources if not handled correctly. The speakers emphasize the importance of understanding key performance indicators (KPIs) like return on fixed assets and fixed asset turnover, which can provide valuable insights into how effectively a company is utilizing its equipment and resources. They underline the necessity of tracking these numbers to avoid costly mistakes, especially in an industry where equipment can represent a significant investment. By discussing the various stages of business growth, they also provide practical advice on how landscaping businesses can position themselves for success, ensuring that they remain financially healthy even during off-peak seasons. Ultimately, the episode serves as a wake-up call for business owners to keep a close eye on their financials and to develop robust systems for managing cash flow, ensuring sustainable growth in the long run.


    Takeaways:

    • Cash flow management is crucial for seasonal businesses, as growth can complicate finances significantly.
    • Utilizing machinery and equipment efficiently can directly affect profit margins in landscaping businesses.
    • Tracking key performance indicators like gross margin helps landscape companies understand operational efficiency better.
    • Staying consistent over time is key to long-term success in the landscaping industry, even amidst challenges.

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Everbearing Services
    • CycleCPA

    Links referenced in this episode:

    • cyclecpa.com
    • landscapebusinessgrowthlab.com
    • everbearingservices.com


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    37 mins
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