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Welcome to The Greater Call, where faith, leadership, and life’s greatest lessons intersect. Hosted by CBS Golf Analyst Mark Immelman, this podcast uncovers inspiring stories, timeless truths, and powerful principles from the Bible.
Through captivating conversations about life, leadership, and legendary moments, The Greater Call will challenge and encourage you to live with purpose, lead with excellence, and embrace the extraordinary journey God has for you.

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  • The Greater Call Podcast – Episode 33: Elijah's Mantle | Cody Carnes
    27 Oct 2026
    What happens when even the strongest leaders reach their breaking point?In this powerful episode of The Greater Call, host Mark Immelman welcomes Grammy-nominated Christian worship artist Cody Carnes for an inspiring conversation about the prophet Elijah, overcoming burnout, finding strength in God's presence, and learning to recognize His still small voice.Known for worship songs like Firm Foundation (He Won't) and Run to the Father, Cody shares the personal experiences behind his music, including seasons of depression, exhaustion, and learning to surrender control.Together, Mark and Cody explore Elijah's extraordinary journey, from boldly confronting the prophets of Baal to fleeing into the wilderness overwhelmed by fear and discouragement. His story reveals that even the most courageous people experience moments of weakness, and that God's response is often not condemnation, but compassion, rest, and renewal.Through honest reflections on faith, leadership, and legacy, they remind us that our greatest calling isn't always found in life's biggest moments, but in the quiet, everyday decisions to trust and follow God.🎙️ In This Episode, You'll Discover:🎙️ The personal story behind Cody Carnes' worship anthem Firm Foundation (He Won't)🎙️ How speaking God's truth can help strengthen faith during difficult seasons🎙️ Why Elijah's extraordinary courage didn't make him immune to fear, exhaustion, or self-doubt🎙️ What Elijah's confrontation with the prophets of Baal teaches us about confidence rooted in God🎙️ How God responded to Elijah's burnout with rest, nourishment, compassion, and reassurance🎙️ Why even successful leaders need permission to pause and recover🎙️ How Cody stepped away from a demanding schedule to rediscover peace and dependence on God🎙️ The importance of Sabbath, stillness, and creating space to hear God's voice🎙️ Why running to God in moments of weakness is an act of faith, not failure🎙️ How Elijah's relationship with Elisha demonstrates the importance of mentorship and legacy🎙️ Why lasting influence is built through small, consistent acts of obedience🔑 Key ThemesElijah: Courage in the Face of OppositionElijah stood boldly against King Ahab, Jezebel, and the prophets of Baal during a time of widespread spiritual darkness.His confidence wasn't rooted in his own abilities, but in the power and presence of God. His story reminds us that true courage comes from knowing whom we trust, even when the odds seem overwhelming.Burnout, Depression, and God's CompassionFollowing one of his greatest victories, Elijah experienced fear, exhaustion, and deep discouragement.Rather than rebuking him, God first provided rest and nourishment. Mark and Cody discuss how this moment reveals God's compassion for our humanity and why recognizing our limitations is essential to healthy leadership.The Still Small Voice: Finding God in the QuietElijah had witnessed extraordinary displays of God's power, yet during his lowest moment, God met him through a gentle whisper.Cody reflects on how constant activity, pressure, and distraction can make it difficult to recognize God's direction. Sometimes the most important step forward is learning to become still.Firm Foundation: Finding Peace in Difficult SeasonsCody shares how Firm Foundation (He Won't) emerged during a deeply challenging personal season.Through worship and declaring God's promises, he discovered renewed peace and strength. His experience highlights the importance of anchoring our faith in something greater than changing circumstances.Run to the Father: Strength Through SurrenderElijah's willingness to bring his fear and frustration before God offers a reminder that we don't need to have everything together before seeking Him.Cody connects this lesson to his song Run to the Father, emphasizing that dependence on God is a daily practice, not a last resort.Rest, Sabbath, and Sustainable LeadershipAt a time when his music career was experiencing tremendous momentum, Cody felt called to dramatically reduce his commitments.What initially felt like a difficult decision became an opportunity to rediscover the importance of rest, trust, and the understanding that everything doesn't depend on us.Legacy: Faithfulness in the Everyday MomentsElijah's influence continued through his mentorship of Elisha, demonstrating that leadership is ultimately about what we pass on to others.Mark and Cody explore how meaningful legacies are created not only through extraordinary achievements, but through everyday obedience, discipline, and faithfulness.📖 Key Bible Passages Discussed1 Kings 17: Elijah's calling, God's provision during the drought, and the widow of Zarephath.1 Kings 18: Elijah confronts the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel.1 Kings 19: Elijah's exhaustion, God's provision, and the still small voice.1 Kings 21: Elijah confronts King Ahab over Naboth's vineyard.2 Kings 2: Elijah's mantle, his departure, and ...
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  • The Greater Call Podcast – Seven Heroes, One Calling | Pastor Kyle Jackson
    13 Oct 2026
    In this special recap episode of The Greater Call, Mark Immelman welcomes back his longtime friend, Pastor Kyle Jackson of Cape Christian Church, for a powerful conversation revisiting seven extraordinary biblical heroes and the timeless lessons they offer about faith, leadership, character, courage, and legacy.From Stephen's unwavering courage and Rahab's bold faith to Jonathan's fierce loyalty and servant leadership, Mark and Kyle explore what these stories teach us about living with purpose, leading with integrity, and answering God's greater call.Through personal stories, practical leadership insights, and honest reflections, they examine how ordinary people can make an extraordinary impact when they put faith into action.Whether you're leading a team, raising a family, mentoring others, or searching for your own calling, this conversation offers encouragement to lead with humility, recognize the potential in others, and build a legacy that lasts.🎙️ In This Episode, You'll Discover:🎙️ Why Stephen teaches us that character must come before recognition and influence🎙️ How small acts of faithful service prepare us for greater responsibilities🎙️ Why Rahab's story proves that your past doesn't have to determine your future🎙️ How faith requires action, even when the outcome remains uncertain🎙️ What Bartholomew teaches us about quiet leadership and making an impact without recognition🎙️ How Boaz used his position, resources, and influence to protect and elevate others🎙️ Why Samuel's willingness to listen offers a powerful lesson for today's leaders🎙️ How Samson's story reveals the difference between talent and character🎙️ Why failure can become an opportunity to return to God and rediscover your purpose🎙️ How Jonathan demonstrated fierce loyalty by celebrating David's calling instead of competing with him🎙️ Why the greatest leaders focus on the success of others rather than their own recognition🔑 Key ThemesStephen: Courage and Character Before PlatformStephen's journey began with humble service before he became a bold witness for Christ. His story reminds us that leadership starts with character, faithfulness, and a willingness to serve.Even in his final moments, Stephen demonstrated courage and compassion, showing that our response under pressure reveals the condition of our hearts.Rahab: Faith, Redemption, and Second ChancesRahab's past did not prevent God from using her in an extraordinary way. Her decision to protect the Israelite spies required courage, trust, and action.Mark and Kyle discuss why we should resist labeling people by their mistakes and recognize that offering someone another chance can change generations.Bartholomew: Faithfulness Without the SpotlightNot every great leader receives public recognition. Bartholomew's example reminds us that significance is not measured by popularity, visibility, or applause.Some of the strongest leaders are those who remain faithful and make a lasting impact quietly.Boaz: Influence That Protects and ElevatesBoaz demonstrated that true leadership is revealed through how we treat others, particularly those with less power or influence.His kindness toward Ruth and his care for his workers illustrate how generosity, dignity, and compassion can become defining leadership qualities.Samuel: Listen Before You LeadSamuel's willingness to listen to God shaped his leadership and helped him recognize David's potential when others overlooked him.His example challenges leaders to look beyond appearances, avoid assumptions, and seek wisdom before making decisions.Samson: Strength, Failure, and RedemptionSamson possessed extraordinary strength but struggled to manage his gifts responsibly.His story reminds us that talent without character can lead to destructive choices. Yet failure does not have to be the end. Returning to God can become the beginning of renewed purpose.Jonathan: Loyalty, Humility, and Servant LeadershipAs the son of King Saul, Jonathan was positioned to inherit the throne. Instead of viewing David as a threat, he chose to support God's calling on his friend.Jonathan teaches us that secure leaders celebrate others, put the mission ahead of personal recognition, and understand that lasting influence doesn't require a crown.📖 Key Bible Passages DiscussedActs 6–7: Stephen's faithful service, courageous witness, and martyrdom.Joshua 2 and 6: Rahab's faith, courage, and protection of the Israelite spies.John 1:43–51: Nathanael (Bartholomew) encounters Jesus.Ruth 2–4: Boaz demonstrates kindness, protection, generosity, and redemption.1 Samuel 3: Samuel responds to God's calling with a willingness to listen.1 Samuel 16: Samuel anoints David, recognizing that God looks at the heart.Judges 13–16: Samson's strength, personal struggles, failure, and final prayer.1 Samuel 18–20: Jonathan's friendship, covenant, and loyalty to David.🔥 Takeaways➡ Character matters more than recognition....
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  • The Greater Call Podcast – Episode 31: Jonathan | Uncrowned King with Brandon Robold
    15 Sep 2026
    In Episode 31 of The Greater Call, Mark Immelman welcomes musician, musical director, and longtime Zach Williams band member Brandon Robold for a powerful conversation about Jonathan—the uncrowned king—and what his story teaches us about fierce loyalty, servant leadership, identity, and purpose.Jonathan had every reason to pursue the throne. As King Saul’s son, he was the natural heir, a proven warrior, and a respected leader. But when he recognized God’s calling on David’s life, Jonathan chose something greater than position: he chose purpose.Drawing parallels between Jonathan’s loyalty to David and Brandon’s own calling to serve and lead behind the scenes, Mark and Brandon explore what it means to elevate others, remain faithful when the spotlight belongs to someone else, and lead without needing the crown.In this episode, you’ll discover:Why Jonathan can be viewed as the Bible’s “uncrowned king” How Jonathan chose God’s purpose over his own position and power Why true loyalty often requires sacrifice The difference between servant leadership and simply staying in the background How Brandon found his calling serving alongside Zach Williams for nearly a decade Why great leaders protect, develop, and elevate the people around them How Jonathan’s security in his identity allowed him to celebrate David’s calling Why integrity requires more than words—it requires action How genuine friendship can redirect us toward God and our greater purpose How to recognize your own calling through faith, gifting, passion, and community Why faith requires action instead of waiting indefinitely for certainty What life on the road with the Zach Williams band has taught Brandon about purpose, ministry, and keeping the mission at the centerKey Themes🎙️Purpose Over Position Jonathan was born into a position of power, but he refused to let his title define his identity. When he recognized God’s calling on David, he willingly supported the future king instead of competing with him.🎙️Fierce Loyalty Jonathan’s loyalty to David came at a tremendous personal cost. He stood beside his friend even when doing so put him at odds with his own father, King Saul.🎙️Servant Leadership Leadership is not always about being the person out front. Brandon shares how his role as a musical director, band leader, and bass guitarist often means leading from behind the scenes—making the entire team stronger without needing the spotlight.🎙️Elevating Others Saul viewed David as a threat. Jonathan viewed David as someone to elevate. Secure leaders don't fear the success of others; they help others fulfill their calling.🎙️Integrity & Accountability Real leadership means standing by your word, accepting responsibility, speaking truth, and resisting the temptation to blame others when things go wrong.🎙️Finding Your Calling Your calling isn't necessarily announced by a booming voice from heaven. Brandon encourages listeners to begin with their relationship with Christ, then pay attention to their gifts, passions, abilities, and what trusted people consistently recognize in them.🎙️Faith Drives Courage Jonathan didn't wait until success was guaranteed before stepping into battle. His faith gave him the courage to move. Sometimes leadership means taking the next faithful step and trusting God with the outcome.Key Verses Mentioned1 Samuel 18:3–4 — Jonathan makes a covenant with David, giving him his robe, tunic, sword, bow, and belt.1 Samuel 14 — Jonathan and his armor-bearer step out in faith against the Philistines, trusting that God can save “by many or by few.”The story of Jonathan and David throughout 1 Samuel provides the foundation for the episode, illustrating loyalty, friendship, courage, sacrifice, and obedience to God’s greater plan.Music MentionedChain Breaker — Zach Williams A song Mark describes as especially meaningful and a powerful picture of what transformation and freedom can look like.Jesus Loves — Zach Williams A reminder that Jesus welcomes the broken, the backslider, and those who have fallen from grace with open arms.Takeaways➡ Your position does not define your identity.➡ True leaders care more about the success of the mission than who receives the credit.➡ Loyalty becomes most meaningful when it costs you something.➡ Secure leaders celebrate and elevate other people's success.➡ Servant leadership doesn't mean weakness—it means using your strength for the benefit of others.➡ When someone under your leadership struggles, lead with accountability, guidance, and responsibility instead of blame.➡ True friendship doesn't simply make you feel better—it helps bring you back toward God and your calling.➡ You don't need the crown to make a lasting impact.➡ Your calling may be found where your relationship with God, your gifts, your passions, and your opportunities intersect.➡ Faith isn't passive. Sometimes you have to take the step and...
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