On this episode of The Corvus Effect®, I sat down with Jesse P. Gilmore, founder of Niche in Control and creator of the Leverage for Growth Method. Jesse shares how reaching a strong revenue goal as a one-on-one coach still left him miserable because he had built another job instead of a founder-independent business.

We get into why founders often stay trapped in the skills that first made them successful and what it takes to move from doer to trainer, manager, leader, and visionary. Jesse breaks down his inside-out approach to growth, including mindset, time audits, delegation systems, minimum viable solutions, value-based pricing, client traction systems, and empowering a team to run major parts of the company.

Along the way, we talk about bringing family into the business, creating clearer roles and communication, staying focused while balancing work and family, and why impact, significance, and legacy matter more than simply making more money.

We also get into why value is not determined by hours worked, the importance of running your own race, and what it takes to build a business that can grow without keeping the founder at the center of everything.



Chapters:
0:00 Coming up
1:01 Introducing Jesse P. Gilmore
02:30 Why Success Still Felt Miserable
04:10 Why Founders Create Jobs Instead of Businesses
05:40 Becoming Founder Optional
07:29 Hiring Help and Applying His Own Method
09:22 Growing a Business From the Inside Out
10:57 The Three Selves and Founder Mindset
13:00 Auditing Time and Building Delegation Systems
17:00 Minimum Viable Solutions and Value Pricing
18:55 Client Traction and Empowering the Team
23:07 Working With Family in Business
26:24 Daily Routines for Focus
28:59 Impact, Fulfillment, and Legacy
32:16 Why Your Value Isn't Your Hours
34:25 Advice to Jesse P. Gilmore's Kids
36:05 How to Connect With Jesse P. Gilmore
37:20 Final Advice for Founder Independence

The Corvus Effect® is what happens when a service business stops depending on its founder. If the business runs on you, you’re the bottleneck, you can’t take a real vacation, and it couldn’t be sold without you. This channel is about changing that.

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▶ Website: https://corvussolutions.co
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Hosted by Scott Raven, Business Operations Architect at Corvus Solutions.

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On this episode of The Corvus Effect®, I sat down with Anna Wondany, fractional CEO, fractional CMO, founder of Advanced Digital, and a leader supporting fractional professionals through Hey CMO. Anna shares how a career spanning startups, corporate environments, acquisitions, and marketing leadership eventually led her to fractional work after a merger fell apart and a difficult employment dispute made returning to another company feel like the wrong path.

Anna breaks down what it really takes to build a sustainable fractional career, including embracing the identity, pricing for value, staying confident through uncertainty, continuously building a pipeline, and setting clear expectations so strategy does not turn into endless execution and scope creep. We also get into why specialization matters as the fractional market becomes more crowded and why the strongest engagements are built around solving meaningful, complex business problems.

Along the way, we talk about auditing systems, programs, campaigns, and people, having difficult conversations when the wrong people are in the wrong roles, and balancing formal authority with influence. Anna also explains why AI is not taking everybody’s job, why marketers still need judgment and strategy, and how Hey CMO uses AI as an ally to help fractional leaders work more effectively instead of replacing them.

We also get into self-worth, professional freedom, work-life balance, and the confidence that comes from building a career on your own terms. Anna shares the advice she would give her younger self after a major setback: do not fear the unknown, trust your instincts, believe in yourself, keep solving problems, and keep moving forward.

Chapters:
0:00 Coming up
1:03 Introducing Anna Wondany
02:29 How Anna Was Pushed Into Fractional Work
06:19 Getting Back Up After a Career Setback
08:00 Fully Embracing the Fractional Identity
09:41 Building Self-Confidence as a Fractional
11:16 Lessons From Anna’s Fractional Journey
13:37 How Hey CMO Helps Fractionals Stand Out
15:25 What Fractionals Get Wrong About Positioning
17:25 The Reality of Fractional Stability
20:49 Growing as a Fractional in the AI Era
24:14 Managing the Wrong People in the Wrong Seats
25:40 Authority vs. Influence in Fractional Leadership
27:45 Choosing the Right Clients and Problems to Solve
29:23 What Businesses Get Right and Wrong About AI
31:39 AI as an Ally, Not the Competition
32:48 Building a Career Around Output, Impact, and Fulfillment
34:52 Advice to a Younger Anna Wondany
35:51 How to Connect With Anna Wondany and Hey CMO
37:15 Final Advice for Fractional Leaders

The Corvus Effect® is what happens when a service business stops depending on its founder. If the business runs on you, you’re the bottleneck, you can’t take a real vacation, and it couldn’t be sold without you. This channel is about changing that.

▶ Work with Corvus: https://calendly.com/corvus-solutions/30-minute-chat
▶ Take the Vacation Test: https://corvussolutions.co/vacation-test.html
▶ Website: https://corvussolutions.co
▶ Contact: contact@corvussolutions.co

Hosted by Scott Raven, Business Operations Architect at Corvus Solutions.

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On this episode of The Corvus Effect®, I sat down with Chris Gray, a clinical psychologist turned consumer behavior expert, to explore how psychology can help brands influence people without crossing into manipulation. Drawing on decades of experience, Chris explains why getting someone to buy once is much easier than earning lasting trust, and why that trust matters more over time.

We get into psychological reactance, empathy, curiosity, and intellectual humility, and why marketers have to keep learning instead of assuming they already understand their customers. Chris also explains how bracketing can help us recognize our own biases and approach customers with fresher eyes.

Along the way, we talk about attention, why disruption can win a split second but relevance is what gives that attention meaning, and how consistency across the customer journey builds familiarity and affinity.

We also get into resilient relationships, mindfulness, building the business while building yourself, and the growing importance of critical thinking in an AI-driven world.

Chapters:
0:00 Coming up
1:05 Introducing Chris Gray
02:37 Why People Buy
03:09 Why Manipulation Backfires
04:25 Psychology Beyond Marketing Tricks
08:46 Understanding Customers More Deeply
10:09 Empathy as a Lifelong Practice
11:44 Bracketing Biases for Better Insight
14:23 When Founder Bias Helps or Hurts
17:04 Why Attention Comes First
19:11 Disruption vs. Relevance
25:32 Building Resilient Relationships
26:34 The Five Fs Framework
29:18 Building the Business and Yourself
31:46 Mindfulness and Staying Curious
33:59 Critical Thinking in an AI World
35:27 How to Connect With Chris Gray

The Corvus Effect® is what happens when a service business stops depending on its founder. If the business runs on you, you’re the bottleneck, you can’t take a real vacation, and it couldn’t be sold without you. This channel is about changing that.

▶ Work with Corvus: https://calendly.com/corvus-solutions/30-minute-chat
▶ Take the Vacation Test: https://corvussolutions.co/vacation-test.html
▶ Website: https://corvussolutions.co
▶ Contact: contact@corvussolutions.co

Hosted by Scott Raven, Business Operations Architect at Corvus Solutions.

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