Challengers Comics + Conversation’s Patrick Brower joins John and David for part 2 of this year-end conversation about all things comics in 2025. They get into why David can’t get all the variant covers, the Marvel/DC crossovers, what made the Absolute Line so successful, the good and the bad of 2025, and looking ahead at the comics industry in 2026, and Patrick makes a prediction – will it come true?

Timestamp Segments

• [00:57] Excitement for 2026.
• [04:38] The variant covers headache.
• [08:03] Marvel and DC do different books together.
• [09:59] The average customer.
• [11:09] The DC/Marvel solution.
• [12:29] DC K.O.
• [14:22] What makes the Absolute Line work?
• [17:56] Was 2025 a good year for comics?
• [19:10] PRH’s payment portal.
• [21:28] Book distributors vs comic distributors.
• [23:31] Making more money – still broke.
• [25:06] What’s coming up in 2026?
• [29:09] Patrick’s prediction for 2026.
• [30:21] Patrick mentions wrestling.
• [30:40] Warner being bought, again.
• [31:35] The longest-running comic shop.

Notable Quotes

• “I'm not saying any names, whatsoever.”
• “Your average customer isn't the expert customer you're hearing from on the internet.”
• “I'm just disappointed that Time Warner rejected the Blockbuster video bid from the early 90s.”

Relevant Links

Challengerscomics.com

Books Mentioned

• Absolute Batman, by Scott Snyder, Nick Dragotta, & Frank Martin.
• Absolute Green Lantern, by Al Ewing & Jahnoy Lindsay.
• Absolute Martian Manhunter, by Deniz Camp & Javier Rodriguez.
• Absolute Superman, by Jason Aaron & Rafa Sandoval.
• Absolute Wonder Woman, by Kelly Thompson, Hayden Sherman, & Jordie Bellaire.
• Batman, by Matt Fraction & Jorge Jiménez.
• The Cull, by Kelly Thompson & Mattia de Iulis.
• DC K.O., by Scott Snyder, Xermanico, Javi Fernandez, & Alejandro Sanchez.
• DC/Marvel: Batman/Deadpool.
• G.I. Joe.
• Ice Cream Man, by W. Maxwell Price, Martin Morazzo, & Chris O’Halloran.
• Marvel/DC: Deadpool/Batman (2025- ).
• Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. (2006-2010), by Warren Ellis & Stuart Immonen.

Challengers Comics + Conversation’s very own Patrick Brower joins John and David for a 2-part year-end conversation about all things comics in 2025. They get into how Diamond’s fall reshaped the entire industry, what it takes to run a comic bookstore, the disappearance of customer service, and a week in the life of a Challengers comic book.

Stay tuned for Part 2 of The Corner Box vs Patrick Brower!

Timestamp Segments

• [01:13] The podcast peaks.
• [05:00] The fall of Diamond.
• [13:53] Navigating smaller margins.
• [16:57] Where is customer service?
• [19:05] Heroes World.
• [20:46] Delivery headaches.
• [25:09] David gets a card.
• [27:06] The shelf-life of a Challengers comic book.

Notable Quotes

• “Not being able to access customer service and talk to a real-live person in 2025, there’s nothing that makes me more angry than that.”
• “It’s not a New Year’s card. It’s a Christmas card.”
• “If you want people to look through stuff, hide it.”

Relevant Links

challengerscomics.com

Books Mentioned

• Kamen Rider, by Shotaro Ishinomori.
• Transformers.
• Transformers: Optimus Prime, by John Barber & Kei Zama.

The one and only real Jim McCann joins John and David to talk about his secret careers in music and flower arranging, the truth behind the success of the podcast, a peek the behind-the-scenes in comic book publishing offices, and how to put a double-page spread to good use. Also, David wets himself, Jim wets his comics, and John gets a rock.

Timestamp Segments

• [00:48] David’s leaky pipes.
• [04:28] Jim loses comics.
• [05:12] David finds comics.
• [06:16] The third best Jim McCann.
• [06:53] Jim is algorithm-optimized.
• [08:37] The world, summarized.
• [10:16] The best office locations.
• [17:53] The Other/Half.
• [19:30] Setting up a double-page spread.
• [22:33] The perfect page turn.
• [32:01] Working with Ignition Press.
• [42:11] Jim’s other secret projects.
• [43:25] John and G.I. Joe.

Notable Quotes

• “I was there for, if I recall correctly, about another 435 years.”
• “Sometimes, rocks are bad. Sometimes, they’re good.”
• “I’m responsible for more failed relaunches of G.I. Joe than any other human being.”

Books Mentioned

• Avengers #800, by Brian Michael Bendis, Jed Mackay, Mark Bagley, Farid Karami, & Russell Dauterman.
• Avengers Disassembled.
• Civil War.
• Conan the Barbarian.
• Dazzler, by Jim McCann & Kalman Andrasofszky.
• Deluge, by Cullen Bunn & Marika Cresta.
• G.I. Joe.
• Green Lantern: Ganthet’s Tale, by John Byrne & Larry Niven.
• Green Lantern Mosaic, by Gerard Jones & Cully Hamner.
• Hawkeye & Mockingbird, by Jim McCann, David Lopez, & Paul Renaud.
• House of M.
• Mind the Gap, by Jim McCann.
• Morning Glories, by Joe Eisma, Nick Spencer, & Rodin Esquejo.
• Murder Podcast, by Jeremy Haun, Mike Tisserand, & Nick Filardi.
• Mutant Massacre.
• New Avengers: The Reunion, by Jim McCann, David Lopez, & Jo Chen.
• New Teen Titans.
• Return of the Dapper Men, by Jim McCann & Janet Lee.
• Something is Killing the Children, by James Tynion IV, Werther Dell’Edera, & Miquel Muerto.
• Star Trek: Year Five.