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That Tech Pod

By: Laura Milstein Gabriela Schulte and Kevin Albert
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Welcome to That Tech Pod, a podcast co-hosted by Laura Milstein and Gabi Schulte (and occasionally Kevin Albert). Each Tuesday, That Tech Pod will feature in depth discussions about data privacy, cybersecurity, eDiscovery, and tech innovations with heavy hitters in the industry. Subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Visit thattechpod.com for more information.© 2023 That Tech Pod
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  • Data Doesn't Drive Decisions. People Do with Sebastian Wernicke
    Jun 23 2026

    This week on That Tech Pod, we sit down with Sebastian Wernicke, a globally recognized expert on data and AI strategy whose TED Talks have been viewed more than five million times. Sebastian argues that successful AI adoption has far less to do with choosing the right tools and far more to do with building the right culture.

    We explore why "data-driven" organizations often struggle to make better decisions, and why Sebastian prefers the idea of being "data-inspired" instead. He explains how leaders can create cultures built on evidence, curiosity, and better questions rather than dashboards and reports. The conversation also takes a fresh look at Shadow AI. Rather than treating employees' use of unauthorized AI tools as simply a security problem, Sebastian explains why it can be a signal that workers are frustrated by broken processes, inefficient workflows, and organizational bottlenecks. We also tackle the growing debate around whether AI is entering bubble territory, what executives misunderstand about AI demand, and how massive investments like Kirkland & Ellis's reported $500 million AI initiative could reshape competition across industries. Will AI become a game where only the largest organizations can afford to compete, or will smaller companies find new ways to stay ahead? Finally, Sebastian shares examples from his book Data Inspired that show how organizations can unlock the value of data not through technology purchases, but through culture, leadership, and better decision-making habits. If you're trying to separate AI hype from business reality, this episode offers a practical roadmap for what actually drives transformation.

    A leading expert in data and AI strategy, Sebastian Wernicke believes that the key to unlocking data’s power lies not in technology, but in leaders fostering a culture of evidence and inquiry. For over 20 years, Sebastian has guided organizations around the world to harness the power of data and AI to achieve breakthrough transformation. Sebastian's ability to make complex topics around data accessible, engaging, and actionable has made him a sought-after speaker and workshop facilitator. His three acclaimed TED Talks have reached over 5 million viewers.

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    28 mins
  • Beyond the Pilot: Making AI Work at Scale with Meredith Kildow
    Jun 16 2026

    AI has moved far beyond experimentation, but many organizations are still figuring out what happens when it becomes part of everyday work. In this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Meredith Kildow, President of Consilio, to explore what it really takes to operationalize AI at scale.

    Drawing on more than 25 years of experience spanning sales, consulting, operations, and executive leadership, Meredith shares a practical perspective on why successful AI adoption is less about technology and more about ownership, process design, culture, and execution. We discuss the difference between running AI pilots and embedding AI into mission-critical workflows, why many organizations struggle to translate productivity gains into measurable business outcomes, and how leadership teams should think about accountability when AI becomes part of the workforce.

    The conversation also examines AI's impact on consulting and professional services, where efficiency gains can fundamentally reshape how value is delivered to clients. Meredith offers insights into the common mistakes organizations make when they try to solve people and process challenges with technology alone, the growing complexity that can come with increased automation, and what today's leaders may be misunderstanding about AI's long-term role in business.

    This episode is a candid look at the operational realities of AI adoption and why the companies seeing the greatest results are focusing as much on people and culture as they are on the technology itself.

    Meredith Kildow is an accomplished operations and sales executive with more than 25 years of experience across multiple industries. Her areas of expertise include expanding go-to-market strategies and bringing high performing teams together through both organic and inorganic growth. Meredith is a champion of combining data-driven approaches with an emphasis on people, culture, and transformation to grow motivated, balanced teams. As President, Meredith is focused on driving excellence in Consilio’s combined commercial business lines, including revenue, account management, and operational delivery across their global client base.

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    35 mins
  • 300 Episodes Later: The End of Tech Hype?
    Jun 9 2026

    As we celebrate our 300th episode, we looked back at two very different conferences that revealed the same technology trend. First was the Bitcoin conference in Las Vegas, where the conversation was no longer about whether Bitcoin would survive. Instead, attendees focused on institutional adoption, corporate treasury strategies, regulation, and how Bitcoin fits into the future of global finance. Laura also spent time meeting with industry leaders including BitFuFu, XCE, and Soapbox Technologies, gaining additional insight into where the industry is heading. The technology has matured beyond its early skepticism and is now being discussed as part of the mainstream financial system.

    A few weeks later at CLOC 2026 in Chicago, we saw a similar evolution in the legal technology world. AI dominated the agenda, but the discussion wasn’t about what AI might do someday. Legal operations leaders were focused on governance, implementation, ROI, risk management, and how to successfully deploy AI within their organizations. The excitement remains, but the conversations have become much more practical.

    What stood out was how closely these industries mirrored one another. At Bitcoin, the question was how to govern and integrate digital assets. At CLOC, the question was how to govern and operationalize AI. In both cases, the technology itself was no longer the story. Execution was.

    After 300 episodes covering everything from cybersecurity and privacy to AI, legal tech, crypto, space technology, and everything in between, one lesson continues to emerge: the future isn’t built on bold predictions. It’s built on organizations that can turn innovation into measurable business value.

    Most importantly, thank you to everyone who has listened, subscribed, shared episodes, joined us as guests, and supported That Tech Pod over the last five years. What started as a simple idea has grown into 300 conversations with incredible leaders, innovators, and experts across countless industries. We appreciate every listener who has been part of this journey. Here’s to the first 300 episodes, and to the next 300!

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    28 mins
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