In this episode of Terribly and Terrifyingly Normal, we speak with Julia Ebner - an expert in online radicalization, conspiracy theories, and the threats they pose to democracy.

As part of her research, she went undercover in extremist online communities and even attended real-world meetings. She witnessed how movements like QAnon grew from small online forums into the mainstream.

She’s the author of three bestselling books: Rage, Going Dark, and Going Mainstream.

In this episode of Terribly and Terrifyingly Normal, we speak with Berber van de Woude. She is a former diplomat who worked for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands. She was stationed, among other places, in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. During her time there, she witnessed numerous violations of international law, but the Dutch government did not intervene. In her view, the system is rigged, and she no longer wanted to be a part of it. She resigned and now chairs The Rights Forum, an advocacy organization that focuses on Israel and Palestine and advocates for the enforcement of international law, including human rights.

In this episode of Terribly and Terrifyingly Normal, we speak with Jack El-Hai, author of The Nazi and the Psychiatrist, the book that inspired the movie Nuremberg.

Together with Prof. Alette Smeulers (University of Groningen), we explore:

• How Jack El-Hai researched and wrote the book

• His insights on Hermann Göring and Douglas Kelley

• What the movie Nuremberg gets right — and what it leaves out

• Whether Nazi leaders were “ordinary men”

• What this history teaches us about perpetrators of mass atrocities

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