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Sunny's Silver Linings

Sunny's Silver Linings

By: Sunny Kaila
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Sunny's Silver Linings is a Top MSP Channel Podcast hosted by the CEO of IT By Design, Sunny Kaila. Sunny and his guests cover a wide range of MSP and Talent-based topics, including MSP services, cybersecurity, customer service, and strategies to achieve growth and success in the channel. Listen now to take your business to the next level!

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  • Browser Security and the AI Blind Spot MSPs Are Missing in 2025

    Browser Security and the AI Blind Spot MSPs Are Missing in 2025
    Jun 25 2026
    On this episode of Sunny's Silver Linings, Sunny Kaila sits down with Daniel Gallancy, CEO of Atakama, to examine the browser security gap that most MSPs have yet to address and why shadow AI has made that gap significantly more dangerous. Daniel's career trajectory ran through engineering, finance, and the cryptocurrency world before arriving in cybersecurity. Atakama itself began as encryption software and executed a full pivot to browser security purpose-built for the MSP channel. That pivot and how Daniel led his team through it with clarity and conviction is one of the most instructive leadership threads in this conversation. The episode covers shadow AI as a present operational reality inside SMB environments, not a theoretical future risk. It also explores how browser-level visibility reshapes the MSP sales conversation and what it looks like to lead through product transformation without losing team alignment. 00:00 Introduction and guest welcome 01:14 Daniel's entrepreneurial journey from engineering to cybersecurity 02:50 The origin of the Atakama name 04:55 The blind spot in traditional endpoint security stacks 07:08 How AI has changed the security threat landscape for MSPs and their clients 10:33 Shadow AI: what MSP leaders are encountering every week 12:36 How Atakama addresses shadow AI at the browser level 16:56 How browser security helps MSPs grow, sell, and retain clients 20:25 The opening question MSPs can use to start a browser security conversation 23:41 Leadership lesson: communicating through a major product pivot 29:10 Looking ahead: where the MSP security stack is heading 30:05 Life lesson from Daniel: the discipline of responding rather than reacting Who This Is For: MSP owners and CEOs evaluating browser security as a new practice area, technology leaders assessing shadow AI visibility and data governance controls, and MSP operators who want a firsthand account of how a cybersecurity company navigated a full product pivot while maintaining team alignment and market momentum. What You Will Learn: Why the browser is the current blind spot in most MSP security stacks and why endpoint tools alone are not enough What shadow AI is, why its non-malicious nature makes it harder to govern, and why that distinction matters for MSP conversations How Atakama surfaces shadow AI activity and client data uploads to MSPs in real time What browser visibility data looks like in a client-facing or prospect-facing conversation The single question MSPs can ask an SMB decision-maker to open a browser security discussion How Daniel maintained team focus and operational momentum through a complete product pivot What the distinction between responding and reacting means at both the leadership and personal level #MSP #CyberSecurity #ShadowAI #BrowserSecurity #AIGovernance #ManagedServices #MSPGrowth #SunnySilverLinings #ITByDesign #ManagedIntelligence
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    35 mins
  • Serge Bukhar, Founder & CEO of Atlas Technica, on Scaling to 400 Employees

    Serge Bukhar, Founder & CEO of Atlas Technica, on Scaling to 400 Employees
    Jun 11 2026
    Serge Bukhar spent ten years inside an MSP, watched it grow from 80 to 400 people, then built something of his own. Ten years later, Atlas Technica is a 400-person pure-play MSP serving the alternative investment industry exclusively. In this episode, Sunny Kaila sits down with Serge to unpack what drove that growth, how Atlas Technica is approaching AI adoption internally and for clients, and why creating space for your team to talk may be the most important leadership move right now. TIMESTAMPS 00:37 From Engineer to Entrepreneur: The Atlas Technica Story 01:22 The Mistake Most MSPs Make: Prioritizing Sales Over Service 02:44 Happy Employees Create Happy Clients 04:48 Building a Pure-Play MSP for Alternative Investment Firms 05:21 Why Measured Growth Beats Growth at Any Cost 05:55 Using AI to Improve Efficiency, Delivery & Client Outcomes 07:18 Why Governance, Compliance & Security Must Come Before AI 09:20 Helping Clients Separate AI Hype from Business Value 10:25 The Dot-Com Comparison: What Today's AI Market Can Learn 12:00 Why MSPs Should Avoid Betting on a Single AI Vendor 15:00 Securing Employee Buy-In for AI Adoption 16:24 How Atlas Technica Implemented Glean Across the Organization 17:32 Driving Adoption Through Communication & Internal Hackathons 19:21 The Reality Check: AI Won't Take Your Job, Someone Using It Better Might 20:24 How Client Demand for AI Changed Almost Overnight 21:27 Why Businesses of Every Size Can Benefit from AI Today 23:50 Turning AI Capabilities Into Growth & Upsell Opportunities 25:36 Serge's Top Leadership Advice: Listen to Your Employees 26:16 Creating Safe Spaces for AI Conversations & Innovation Who this is for: MSP owners and operators looking to scale with intention, leaders navigating internal AI adoption, and anyone working to turn AI into a real business practice. What you will learn: Why service delivery is the real growth driver for MSPs, not sales or technology How Atlas Technica used Glean to give 400 employees practical access to AI How to help clients navigate AI vendor selection without chasing hype Why hedging across multiple AI vendors matters more than committing to one How to identify and retain AI-forward thinkers already inside your organization #AIbyDesign #MSP #ManagedServices #AIAdoption #MSPGrowth #ArtificialIntelligence #ITByDesign #SunnyKaila #AtlasTechnica #AlternativeInvestments #ServiceDelivery #TechLeadership
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    30 mins
  • The MSP Who Waits to Feel Ready Will Lose to the One Who Already Moved

    The MSP Who Waits to Feel Ready Will Lose to the One Who Already Moved
    May 28 2026
    The MSPs who resisted the cloud in 2013 didn't disappear overnight, but they became last year's business fast. The same shift is happening right now with AI, and it's moving at a speed that won't give anyone a decade to catch up. In this episode, Sunny sits down with various MSP leaders to unpack what it takes to lead a business through this moment, financially, mentally, and operationally. Timestamps: 00:00 — Why embracing AI is non-negotiable for MSPs right now 01:29 — Running a weekly AI Accelerator for MSP leaders 02:08 — "AI won't replace MSPs. AI-powered MSPs will replace MSPs" 03:20 — Why culture and cash are not in conflict 04:27 — Teaching your team the financials: the leadership move most skip 07:56 — DSO explained: the number that changes MSP cash flow overnight 07:59 — Readiness is not a state of being. It's what happens after you act 10:43 — The backwards confidence model: action first, confidence second 11:34 — Being stuck is not a problem. It's a signal Who this is for: MSP owners and operators who want to lead through the AI transition, improve financial health, and stop waiting for the "right moment" to make their next move. What you will learn: Why the AI transition will move faster than the cloud shift and what that means for MSPs who hesitate The difference between AI replacing MSPs vs. AI-powered MSPs outcompeting everyone else How to use DSO as a practical lever to improve cash flow and business health Why financial transparency with your team builds culture, not undermines it The backwards confidence model: why action creates readiness, not the other way around How to reframe being "stuck" as a signal for growth, not a failure state
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    13 mins
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