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Subjects and Objects

Subjects and Objects

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Real lessons from a fantasy world!


The values we develop in childhood often shape the rest of our lives.

Steven Pond ( @TheCosmerenaut ) and Dr. Ben Jeppsen explore what Brandon Sanderson's "The Way of Kings" can teach us about mental health.

This week, The Way of Kings Chapters 9 & 10!


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