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Sidewalk Talks

Sidewalk Talks

By: Riverfront Saginaw / Storyville
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Random people, random topics, talking on random sidewalks in the City of Saginaw, Michigan.© 2026 Riverfront Saginaw / Storyville Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Local Journalism Matters with Justin Engel
    Feb 16 2026

    In his first-ever podcast appearance, MLive journalist Justin Engel talks about his history and work in local journalism. The conversation centers on defining journalism and discusses misinformation, clickbait, and AI-generated content, and argues for news literacy and reading beyond headlines and comment sections. Justin and Phil emphasize the value of strong local media in the Great Lakes Bay Region, explain why journalism isn’t free and needs subscriptions to survive, and describe how reporting broadened Justin’s perspective by exposing him to different communities across the county. They close with advice to young aspiring journalists to follow the calling, adapt to changing formats, and keep learning—even when it means stepping outside comfort zones.

    00:00 First Podcast EVER
    00:36 Movie Podcasts & First Theater Memory
    01:57 Why Star Wars Hit So Hard
    03:24 Favorite Films: Aliens, Almost Famous & the Power of a Great Scene
    04:51 Zodiac and Why Journalism Matters in the Real World
    06:21 Becoming a Journalist: Early Writing, High School Paper & Grandma’s Tip
    10:37 College to Career: Delta, SVSU, and Joining The Saginaw News
    13:05 What Is Journalism? Verification, Sources, and Getting It Right
    16:23 Context vs. Social Media Narratives
    19:58 Scanner Traffic, Clickbait, and How Misinformation Spreads
    22:56 AI-Generated News & Clickbait: Why It Looks Real
    23:36 News Literacy 101: Verifying Sources in the AI Era
    24:57 Why Local Journalism Still Matters (and What Reporters Actually Do)
    30:03 Support Local News: Paywalls, Sharing vs. Stealing, and Sustainability
    34:38 How Reporting Changes You: Seeing Your Community Through Others’ Eyes
    38:12 Story Advocate Mindset: Curiosity, Craft, and Saginaw’s Storytelling Legacy
    42:33 Advice for Future Journalists: Follow the Calling & Learn the Business Side
    45:21 New Formats, On-Scene Video, and Final Thanks

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    48 mins
  • On the Road (and Back Again) with Jessica Shepherd
    Feb 16 2026

    From Saginaw to living to an RV and back again! In this episode of Sidewalk Talks, Jessica Shepherd discusses her background in broadcasting and journalism, selling most of her belongings to travel full-time in an RV for about two and a half years, and work-camping around the country. She talks about life on the road and why she and her partner, Mark, chose to return home to Saginaw.

    00:00 Mic Check & Meet Jessica Shepherd
    01:05 Writing Love Letters to Saginaw
    03:13 How She Got Into Journalism: WSGW, MLive & Mentors
    06:02 Why She Left Saginaw: Career Moves to Grand Rapids & Kalamazoo
    07:38 Selling Everything to Live in an RV: Downsizing & Marie Kondo Mode
    09:11 How Van Life Became Real: Travel, Belonging & Not Feeling at Home
    12:04 Workamping Adventures: Campgrounds, Christmas Trees & National Parks
    14:36 Favorite Stops & Big Nature: Grand Tetons, Grand Canyon & Photography
    18:11 When the Adventure Felt Like Limbo: Disorientation, Work Challenges & Choosing Saginaw
    27:48 Choosing Your Good and Bad: The ‘Grass Is Greener’ Reality
    28:44 Saginaw’s Energy: The ‘Something in the Dirt and Water’ Feeling
    29:59 Genuine Friendliness & Community Grit (No Pretending)
    33:21 Why They Moved Back: Home, Real Estate, and the RV Transition
    35:16 One Last Hurrah: Beet Harvest Work-Camping After Buying the House
    36:38 Coming Home Hits Different: Love Letters, Old Town, and What’s New
    39:20 Get Out and Experience Saginaw: Food, Volunteering, and Finding Your People
    43:00 Stop Waiting to Be ‘Served’ a Community: Social Media vs Showing Up
    44:53 Quick-Fire RV Life Q&A: Tanks, Shells, Snacks, and Road Trip Anthems
    51:17 Final Advice: RV Life Won’t Fix You—Run Toward Something + Welcome Back

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    55 mins
  • Old World Pizzeria: From Fermentation and Rabbit Farming to New York-Style Slices in Saginaw
    Feb 16 2026

    In this episode of Sidewalk Talks, Eric Shevchenko talks about bringing New York-style pizza to Saginaw with Old World Pizzeria. He talks about the power of food as a way to keep people connected, preserve culture, evoke emotion, and be a vehicle for creativity.

    Eric explains how pizza became his focus, including a 48-hour research trip to New York eating slices and revisiting favorites. Shevcenko talks about his obsessive experimentation with dough fermentation and hydration, creative menu, and OWP’s burnt Basque-style cheesecake.

    Eric recounts earlier experiences in Northern California, including raising rabbits for high-end restaurants near Napa and spending time around fine-dining creativity. He shares why he returned to Saginaw to care for his mother, his hopes for local food culture and security, and stories of customers traveling hours, crying, and calling the shop after a cheese slice. They also cover Eric’s appearance on the Netflix survival series Outlast in Alaska and hints of future projects for Old World Pizzeria.

    00:00 Ergonomic Chair Shenanigans & Mystery Knobs
    00:40 The Tinned Fish Obsession
    03:10 From Preservation Food Co. to Fermentation Roots
    04:44 Old World Pizzeria: Going All-In on New York-Style Pizza
    05:39 48 Hours in NYC: Slice-Crawling for the Perfect Dough
    07:06 Creative Specials, Flop Ingredients & the ‘Burnt’ Cheesecake
    08:51 Pizza Origin Story: Midwest Shops, Skateboarding & San Francisco
    11:08 Food Memories, Dementia, and Why Comfort Food Matters
    13:58 Rabbit Farming to Fine Dining: Supplying Top Bay Area Kitchens
    18:27 Fine Dining Creativity, Old Town Food Scene & Pizza as a Vessel
    23:18 When a Cheese Slice Makes People Cry: Nailing the NY Balance
    25:49 Handling Haters: Taste Is Subjective
    26:06 Why Come Back to Saginaw? Family, Roots & the “Vortex”
    26:46 From Rabbit Farm to Pizza Shop (and Rumors of Another Location)
    27:24 Old World Pizzeria 101: Price, Ingredients & “Clean” Pizza
    28:28 Behind the Counter: 5AM Dough, Desserts & Cookie Experiments
    30:01 Slice Culture: Fast Takeout, Choose-Your-Adventure & Hours
    31:15 Brother Chad’s Return: Nashville to Home Again
    32:29 Most Memorable Meals: Fine Dining vs. The People You’re With
    34:14 Netflix Survival Show ‘Outlast’: Getting Cast & Alaska Reality
    36:55 Cameras, Panic Attacks & What It Takes to Survive
    39:43 Ratings, Reality TV Frustrations & On-Camera Lessons
    44:53 Rapid Fire Pizza Takes + What’s Next for Old World (Wrap-Up)

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    49 mins
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