Episodes

  • Ep. 27: LILY KING
    Jun 21 2026
    Discover how acclaimed novelist Lily King uses emotional journeys and present tense to craft authentic, compelling stories. In this episode, Lily King discusses her writing process, the emotional core of her novels, and her reflections on love, life, and how her experiences shape her storytelling.Main Topics:How Lily King channels emotion into her novels, using her personal hospital experiences as inspirationThe significance of writing in present tense to capture immediacy and raw feelingsThe relationship between life events and her fictional worlds, especially in Heart the Lover and Writers and LoversThe depiction of love as a multifaceted and ongoing journey beyond traditional notionsLily’s unique writing process, using spiral notebooks, timelines, and revisionsThe impact of technology, especially the absence of phones in earlier stories, on character interactions and storytellingTimestamps: 00:00 - Lily King shares her approach to capturing emotion in her stories 00:27 - The purpose of creating emotional vessels within her novels 0:43 - Introduction to Lily King and her acclaimed works 1:40 - Reading from Heart the Lover and the novel’s emotional backdrop 2:09 - The scene of a writer’s professional and personal intrusion 2:38 - Lily’s portrayal of her character’s emotional breakdown during a lecture 3:07 - The relationship with Ray Hart and the power of unexpected praise 4:32 - The significance of past trauma, vulnerability, and crying in her writing 5:27 - Front-stage versus backstage emotional management in her novels 6:28 - Reflection on her visit to London and the hotel’s history 8:15 - The honor of being shortlisted for the Women’s Prize 9:16 - The intertwining of writing and life in Heart the Lover 10:16 - Balancing life’s challenges with the act of writing 11:47 - How characters’ emotional reactions reveal deeper themes and gender differences 12:24 - The emotional processing styles of male versus female writers 14:46 - The recurring theme of recovery and internalization in her protagonists 15:42 - The stylistic choice of present tense and its emotional impact 17:19 - The role of emotion in the initial inspiration for her novels 19:04 - Surprising character connections and their influence on her storytelling 20:18 - Reading Writers and Lovers after Heart the Lover – insights into narrative freedom 22:20 - The emotional toll of her writing process, especially in the final scene 23:55 - Creating realistic characters and complex love relationships 26:02 - Broader definitions of love and its continuance through different relationships 27:43 - Her relationship with readers and the importance of honesty 29:49 - Lily’s writing routine, notebook notes, and revision process 31:07 - Visual aids like sketches and timelines helping her craft stories 32:38 - Transition from handwritten notes to typed drafts, intensive editing process 34:23 - How technological shifts from the 1980s to today affect storytelling and communication 35:50 - Why Lily King writes: to explore and express her feelings 36:32 - Closing thoughts and where to find more from Lily KingResources & Links:Heart the Lover (check for latest edition)Writers and Lovers (check for latest edition)Women’s Prize for FictionLily King - Official WebsiteConnect with Lily King:TwitterInstagramSHOP TALK WITH WRITERS is a unique conversation with each author, about the stories behind their books.Subscribe to our monthly newsletter to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    38 mins
  • Ep.26: EDEN McKENZIE-GODDARD
    May 8 2026

    SHOW NOTES

    Host Elena Lappin in conversation with novelist Eden Mckenzie-Goddard about his debut novel SMALLIE - a powerful love story and a multigenerational tale of family, loss, and identity. The novel intertwines personal heritage with the political realities faced by Caribbean immigrants in Britain. In this episode, Eden McKenzie-Goddard shares insights into his writing process, the significance of the novel’s title, and the emotional depths of his characters’ journeys.

    Copyright: Elena Lappin

    Original theme music score copyright: Tom Pooley


    • Navigating multi-generational stories that reflect the complexities of immigration and identity
    • How language, music, and personal experiences shape McKenzie-Goddard's storytelling
    • The role of empathy and emotional truth in portraying characters' inner worlds
    • The significance of the Windrush scandal in shaping the novel’s political and social themes
    • Writing in multiple first-person voices to deepen character development
    • The creative process and how music influences the author's writing rhythm
    • Challenges of balancing political themes with human stories
    • Timestamps00:00 - Introduction to Eden Mackenzie Goddard and Smalley
    • 01:33 - Eden reads from his novel, exploring themes of discomfort and language
    • 05:54 - Discussing the book’s connection with the Windrush scandal and its multi-generational scope
    • 08:48 - Film rights and themes of love and anger in the story
    • 11:40 - Personal stories of long-distance love and migration
    • 13:19 - The novel’s portrayal of unspoken responsibilities and internal conflicts
    • 14:17 - Exploring multiple narrative voices and character depth in Smalley
    • 17:35 - The importance of empathy in storytelling and understanding family pain
    • 20:12 - The immigrant experience and feeling of abandonment within families
    • 22:10 - Character complexity, especially Lucinda, and her struggles with language and identity
    • 24:46 - The theme of rebellion and the search for freedom through Lucinda’s journey
    • 26:08 - The impact of language and how it shapes self-perception and authenticity
    • 33:00 - The theme of aloneness and isolation within immigrant narratives
    • 36:05 - Addressing political issues through human stories, focusing on the Windrush scandal
    • 42:16 - The evolution of the story and Mc-Kenzie-Goddard's creative process over years
    • 44:14 - The creative milestone of writing the final scene and the story’s life force
    • 46:00 - Vision of SMALLIE adapted to film, highlighting visual storytelling


    • Resources & Links
    • SMALLIE by Eden Mackenzie Goddard (search for latest links)
    • Nancy Wilson - Guess Who I Saw Today
    • Connect with Eden Mackenzie GoddardTwitter
    • Instagram
    • Official Website
    • Additional NotesThe significance of language and identity in multicultural and immigrant experiences is central to Eden’s storytelling. His personal insights and musical influences enrich the narrative depth of SMALLIE.
    • The episode emphasizes storytelling as a vehicle for empathy, highlighting individual human stories amidst political upheavals.



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    48 mins
  • Ep.25: SHARON GLESS
    Apr 10 2026
    Summary:Award-winning American actress Sharon Gless (Cagney&Lacey co-star) in conversation with host Elena Lappin about her powerful memoir APPARENTLY THERE WERE COMPLAINTS (Simon&Schuster)..Key topics:Sharon Gless’s childhood experiences and the impact of her parents’ divorceHow acting served as a form of self-preservation and identityThe motivation behind her memoir and its themes of honesty and humourDifferences between acting roles and writing about her own lifeThe significance of her role in pioneering TV roles for women in the 70s and 80sInsights into her process of developing characters and backstoriesThe importance of active listening, both in acting and lifePersonal reflections on feeling like an outsider and the power of self-acceptanceBehind-the-scenes stories from "Cagney and Lacey," including collaboration on scriptsHer experiences living and working in London and her love for the cityThe dynamic relationship with her co-star Tyne Daly and their off-screen bondThe influence of her grandmother and family on her life and careerHer thoughts on the evolution of television storytelling and female representationHer outlook on the future and embracing new roles and identitiesTimestamps: 00:00 - Intro and Sharon Gless’s childhood struggles 00:44 - The role of acting as emotional self-defense 02:12 - Reading from her autobiography "Apparently There Were Complaints" 02:38 - Making wishes during storms and unexpected life changes 03:07 - How a CBS meeting led to her memoir 04:07 - Challenges of writing and self-reflection 05:06 - Feelings of not belonging and the comfort of acting 05:35 - Her loyalty to acting as her lifelong love 06:34 - Her approach to character development and authenticity 07:02 - Memorable performances and moments of belonging 07:31 - Universal Studios memories and her career beginnings 09:58 - Influences from her childhood and important figures like Monique James 10:18 - The power of her chapter reading and audience reactions 10:59 - Comparing past TV storytelling with today’s content 11:30 - The honesty and rawness of classic TV stories 12:47 - The material and brilliance behind "Cagney and Lacey" 13:25 - Contributing to scripts and character development 14:17 - Playing Cagney’s struggle with alcoholism and her real-life journey 15:26 - Differences between acting and writing her personal experiences 17:29 - Childhood family dynamics and influential figures 19:14 - The emotional muscles she developed to survive early trauma 20:17 - The significance of feeling dead inside and acting as a safety mechanism 21:19 - Celebrating her portrayal of diverse characters across roles 22:34 - Her acting technique of backstory development 23:21 - Using imagination and research to embody characters 24:11 - Her stage work in London and productions in the West End 25:01 - Her love for London and its cultural resonance 26:11 - Fascinating women in her memoir, like her grandmother and Monique James 27:33 - Lessons learned from her mentor about listening and authentic expression 29:23 - The importance of connection and understanding others in storytelling 30:03 - Her brother Michael’s inspiring story and personal struggles 31:09 - Imagining a film about her family and life stories 31:30 - The on-screen and off-screen relationship with Tyne Daly 32:44 - Her love for her career and early studio life 33:39 - The unique idea of quotes on her book’s back cover 35:37 - Final gratitude and appreciation for her candid storytellingResources & Links:Apparently There Were Complaints by Sharon GlessSharon Gless - IMDbUniversal Studios Official SiteAudible - Apparently There Were ComplaintsstagramOfficial WebsiteSHOP TALK WITH WRITERS is a unique conversation with each author, about the stories behind their books.Subscribe to our monthly newsletter to find out more about each episode, and to engage with our conversations with authors Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    36 mins
  • Ep: 24: MARGARET BUSBY
    Mar 18 2026


    Elena Lappin explores the remarkable life and work of Margaret Busby, in conversation with the pioneering publisher, editor, and author, through her personal stories, insights on publishing, and reflections on music and culture. A celebration of the publication of Margaret Busby's new book PART OF THE STORY: WRITINGS FROM HALF A CENURY (Hamish Hamilton).

    The episode is dedicated to Margaret Busby"s favourite music charity, TOMORROW's WARRIORS.


    keywords


    Margaret Busby, publishing, black writers, literature, music, autobiography, Daughters of Africa, Tomorrow's Warriors, black culture, literary history



    key topics


    Margaret Busby's early life and education in Ghana and England

    Founding of Alison and Busby publishing house

    Publishing influential black writers and anthologies

    Reflections on her personal writings and memoir

    Her passion for music and support for Tomorrow's Warriors



    guest name


    Margaret Busby



    key frameworks


    Chronological organization of writings

    Passing knowledge and passing it on



    action items


    Explore Margaret Busby's writings and anthologies

    Support Tomorrow's Warriors and similar initiatives

    Reflect on the importance of passing on cultural knowledge



    Titles


    Margaret Busby: A Life in Publishing and Music

    From Ghana to the World: The Margaret Busby Story



    sound bites


    "Not a day passes without my mother being in my thoughts."

    "Putting together this book was like my life’s work."

    "Music is serious; I believe it’s as serious as your life."



    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction and Margaret Busby's Background

    01:20 Her Publishing Career and Notable Authors

    02:20 Her Passion for Music and Tomorrow's Warriors

    03:10 Reading from 'Part of the Story' - Personal Reflections

    23:41 Assembling the Book: Challenges and Process

    26:49 Reflections on Publishing and Personal Life

    44:28 Key Writings and Influences in Her Career

    52:36 Titles and Themes of the Book Sections

    01:07:51 Why Margaret Writes and Publishes

    01:11:49 Legacy, Inspiration, and Closing Remarks


    resources


    Tomorrow's Warriors - https://www.tomorrowswarriors.org/

    Daughters of Africa (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Daughters+of+Africa

    Margaret Busby on Twitter - https://twitter.com/MargaretBusby



    guest links


    Twitter - https://twitter.com/MargaretBusby

    Official Website - https://www.hamishhamilton.co.uk/authors/margaret-busby

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Ep.23: FRANCIS SPUFFORD
    Feb 26 2026



    In this in-depth interview with host Elena Lappin, novelist and non-fiction writer Francis Spufford discusses his latest novel NONESUCH, set during the London Blitz, blending historical detail with supernatural elements. He explores London's layered history, character development, and the interplay of fact and fiction, offering insights into his creative process and thematic interests.


    Keywords


    Francis Spufford, Nonesuch, London Blitz, historical fiction, literary fiction, supernatural, city as character, novel writing, creative process, WWII London, fantasy in fiction, fascism, the occult, angels, bombing, war, family, love, early technology


    Key topics


    Blitz era London and its supernatural reinterpretation

    London as a character in fiction

    Historical layers of London and their influence on storytelling


    Guest name


    Francis Spufford, Novelist

    NONESUCH is published by Faber



    sound bites


    "Play is very serious for a maker."

    "London is a character in this novel."

    "The Blitz is London's epic moment."



    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction and author background

    01:08 Setting the scene: London during the Blitz

    04:37 London's layered history and fictional streets

    09:40 The supernatural elements and historical occultism

    14:34 The role of London as a character in the novel

    19:30 Character development: Iris and her world

    23:12 Themes of darkness, evil, and supernatural forces

    27:21 Historical influences and literary inspirations

    36:47 Transition from nonfiction to fiction writing

    41:24 Playfulness and imagination in Spufford's writing

    44:34 The challenge of channeling C.S. Lewis

    50:24 Belief, faith, and the supernatural in storytelling

    53:46 Why Francis Spufford writes: storytelling as understanding


    resources


    None Such by Francis Spufford - https://www.faber.co.uk/9780571366074-none-such.html

    Francis Spufford's Official Website - https://francisspufford.com

    London Blitz History - https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/blitz_01.shtml



    guest links


    Twitter - https://twitter.com/FrancisBufford

    Website - https://francisspufford.com

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    55 mins
  • Ep.22: JULIAN BORGER
    Jan 31 2026

    Summary


    In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, Guardian foreign correspondent Julian Borger tells host Elena Lappin about his book I SEEK A KIND PERSON: MY FATHER, SEVEN CHILDREN AND THE ADVERTS THAT HELPED THEM ESCAPE THE HOLOCAUST. He discusses his family's past and the stories of other children who were also refugees, highlighting the importance of understanding and remembering these narratives. The discussion also touches on the complexities of belonging and the legacy of trauma passed down through generations.


    The episode also features the charity SHELTERBOX, an organisation which provides help worldwide to communities in crisis via their book club, the ShelterBox Book Club.


    Keywords


    Julian Borger, I Seek a Kind Person, Holocaust, children, survivors, refugee stories, family history, trauma, identity, belonging, memoir, investigative journalism


    Takeaways


    Julian Borger's book is a personal exploration of his father's refugee experience.

    The emotional impact of discovering a family advert seeking a foster parent.

    The silence surrounding trauma in refugee families is a common experience.

    Borger's investigative journalism approach helped uncover hidden family histories.

    The importance of kindness in the context of refugee experiences.

    Understanding the dual identity of being a refugee and assimilating into a new culture.

    The book connects the stories of multiple refugee children from the same era.

    Borger reflects on the pressures his father faced as a refugee.

    The significance of remembering and honoring those lost in the Holocaust.

    The journey of writing the book transformed Borger's understanding of his family.



    Titles


    Unveiling Family Secrets: Julian Borger's Journey

    The Hidden Stories of Refugees: A Conversation with Julian Borger



    Sound bites


    "The past is never dead, it's not even past."

    "I was running away from something."

    "I came to see the boy hidden inside the man."



    Chapters


    00:00 The Journey Begins: Discovering Family History

    07:01 Unpacking the Book: Themes and Inspirations

    13:49 The Silence of the Past: Understanding Trauma

    22:04 Connecting Stories: The Lives of Refugee Children

    30:14 The Impact of Secrecy: A Father's Legacy

    36:52 Reflections on Identity: Belonging and Displacement

    44:05 Transformative Discoveries: Understanding Family Dynamics

    50:56 Cultural Connections: The Influence of History on Art


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    58 mins
  • Ep.21: MOIRA BUFFINI (Part 2)
    Jan 16 2026

    Summary


    In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages in a deep conversation with novelist Moira Buffini about her works, particularly her novels 'Songlight' and 'Torchfire.' Buffini reflects on the themes of trust and division in her fictional town of North Haven, drawing parallels to her own experiences growing up in a divided society influenced by the historical context of Northern Ireland. She discusses the importance of exploring complex relationships, particularly between mothers and daughters, and how these dynamics are often underrepresented in literature. Buffini also addresses the challenges of categorizing her work within the YA genre, emphasizing the emotional truths and societal issues her characters navigate, including the implications of misogyny and the expectations placed on young women in a dystopian setting.



    Keywords


    Moira Buffini, Songlight, Torchfire, dystopian fiction, YA literature, mother-daughter relationships, societal issues, writing process, speculative fiction, emotional truth, political fantasy, historical parallels



    Takeaways


    There's nothing in these books that hasn't happened somewhere in the world.

    Mothers are extraordinary figures with both light and darkness in their relationships.

    Speculative fiction allows us to explore societal issues in a different light.

    The emotional truth in writing is what makes a story beautiful.

    Young women need to navigate difficult realities, and literature can help arm them.



    Titles


    Exploring Dystopia: Moira Buffini on 'Songlight' and 'Torchfire'

    The Emotional Truth in Dystopian Fiction with Moira Buffini



    Sound bites


    "I drew on my great love of history."

    "Why is the exploration of difficult relationships not acceptable?"

    "Speculative fiction is a great way of distilling out the confusion."



    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Moira Buffini and Her Works

    02:09 Themes of Trust and Division in North Haven

    04:24 Mother-Daughter Relationships in Literature

    07:03 Navigating YA Genre and Emotional Truth

    10:50 Exploring Misogyny and Societal Expectations

    18:14 The Role of History in Buffini's Writing

    24:11 Speculative Fiction as a Reflection of Now

    30:06 The Freedom and Challenges of Writing Across Mediums

    34:08 Why Moira Buffini Writes


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    44 mins
  • Ep.20: MOIRA BUFFINI (PART 1)
    Jan 11 2026

    Keywords


    dystopian fiction, telepathy, Songlight, Torch Trilogy, character development, creative writing, Moira Buffini, storytelling, female empowerment, world-building


    Summary


    In this wide-ranging conversation, acclaimed novelist, playwright and screenwriter Moira Buffini discusses her dystopian trilogy, the Torch Trilogy, which explores themes of telepathy, connection, and the struggles of young women against oppressive regimes. The dialogue delves into Buffini's creative process, her transition from playwriting to novel writing, and the intricate character development that brings her world to life. The discussion also highlights the moral complexities of her characters, particularly the antagonists, and the overarching themes of communication and empowerment in her storytelling.



    Takeaways


    The world of Songlight is set thousands of years in the future.

    Buffini's writing is influenced by her background in playwriting.

    The trilogy explores themes of telepathy and connection.

    Character development is central to the storytelling process.

    Buffini aims to write stories that resonate with her heart.

    The intimacy of novel writing differs from playwriting.

    Buffini's characters are often named for their traits or roles.

    The antagonist, Zara Swan, is a complex character shaped by trauma.

    The trilogy emphasizes the power of young women standing together.

    Buffini believes in the importance of intuitive communication.



    Titles


    Exploring the Dystopian World of Songlight

    The Creative Journey of Moira Buffini



    Sound bites


    "This is my heart song."

    "Song is a central human thing."

    "I keep going back to writing."



    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to the Dystopian World of Songlight

    07:58 The Creative Process Behind the Torch Trilogy

    15:30 The Transition from Playwriting to Novel Writing

    21:05 Character Development and Perspectives

    30:54 Themes of Connection and Communication

    39:24 Complex Antagonists and Moral Ambiguity


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    49 mins