What does it actually look like to help women take their next step toward maturity in Christ?

In this episode of The Everyday Ministry Podcast, Marty Sweeney sits down with Beth Harrell, former Matthias Media staff member and now full-time Women's Ministry Director at Old North Church. Together, they explore how thoughtful ministry structures—paired with patient, relational discipleship—help women move from events to engagement, and from attendance to maturity.

Beth reflects on the importance of building clear pathways for growth, balancing large gatherings with one-to-one ministry, and training leaders without burning them out. The conversation also challenges common assumptions about success in women's ministry, reminding us that long-term fruit often comes through slow, faithful investment in people rather than impressive programs.

This episode is especially encouraging for churches with limited time, staff, or resources—and for anyone wanting to think more carefully about how real growth happens in everyday ministry.

• Why women's ministry needs pathways, not just programs

• How one-to-one ministry supports and strengthens larger gatherings

• Identifying and training leaders with patience and care

• Why the "next step" isn't always another event

• Measuring fruitfulness by growth, not numbers

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• The Vine Project – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne
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