Dallas sits down with Lennard Joe, CEO of the BC First Nations Forestry Council, for a conversation about the transformation of First Nations in forestry, from being turned away at industry conferences to holding over 11 million cubic metres of tenure and building a billion-dollar business.

Lennard shares his path from Shackan to Weyerhaeuser to leading the only forestry council of its kind in Canada, talks about sticky capital and why First Nations are generational investors, and explains what it took to turn the Forestry Council into a trusted advisor for nations across the province.

Plus: the Let's Get Real segment, a question from Andrew Robinson on building investment plans with Indigenous communities, and the Merritt industry cluster.

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Andrew Robinson, CEO of the Nisga'a Lisims Government, joins Dallas for the Season 4 premiere. Twenty-six years into their treaty, the Nisga'a Nation has built a critical minerals port with the Tahltan in Stewart, created an energy corridor through the Nass Valley, constructed over 70 housing units in a single year, and raised a generation of citizens who grew up outside the Indian Act.

Andrew talks about what that generation inherited, what they're doing with it, and why treaties are about negotiating yourself into the country rather than out of it. He also shares stories about his family, the late Joe Gosnell's challenge to the nation, elder care, northern infrastructure gaps, the next generation of Nisga'a professionals, and what he thinks British Columbians should understand about what self-governance actually looks like.

Plus: the Let's Get Real segment, a question from George Abbott on climate change, and the best chow mein answer in podcast history.

Rez Dog Walkers is hosted by Dallas Smith, President of Na̲nwak̲olas Council, and produced in partnership with C3 Alliance and the Indigenous Resource Opportunities Conference (IROC).

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Host Dallas Smith sits down with George Abbott, Chief Commissioner of the BC Treaty Commission and best selling author, for a compelling conversation on Indigenous rights and reconciliation in British Columbia.

George reflects on decades of change in Indigenous relations, sharing insights from his widely praised new book on the complexities of treaties and land rights in the province. Together, they explore the challenges of the treaty process, the economic opportunities available to Indigenous communities, and the importance of collaborative dialogue to address historical injustices.

From coastal and interior disparities to climate change and cultural preservation, this episode offers a thoughtful, solutions-oriented look at the path forward for First Nations in B.C.

This episode is proudly sponsored by GDM Civil. Since 2010, Greystone Design Management has been one of Metro Vancouver and the Fraser Valley's most innovative full-service civil construction firms, delivering projects safely, on time, and on budget. Learn more at https://greystonedesignmanagement.ca/

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