Host Dr Russell Thackeray interviews Georgina Woodley in Perth, Australia about her background in big-four consulting, strategy, and 20+ years in market research, and her interest in applying personal-development “energy” concepts to organisations.

They discuss how people sense workplace culture, how individual mood and “underlying human state” affects meetings, authenticity, and leadership responsibilities to support mental wellbeing.

Woodley introduces Joy-o-meter, a measurement framework/program that assesses customer and staff experience plus the underlying human state to reveal patterns, capacity, and friction points affecting performance, loyalty, burnout risk, absenteeism, and turnover.

She argues joy is a strategic advantage linked to creativity, flow, and psychological safety, and contrasts joy measurement with satisfaction and NPS. Joy-o-meter uses succinct quantitative surveys with open-ended comments, can isolate current issues from past experiences, and is delivered flexibly via reporting, workshops, or dashboards.

Contact is via LinkedIn and joy-o-meter.com.

00:00 Summer vs Aussie Winter

01:39 Meet Georgina Woodley

02:30 What Energy Means at Work

06:19 Authenticity and Mood Responsibility

10:11 Measuring Joy with Joy-o-meter

12:59 Why Joy Drives Performance

16:36 Beyond NPS and Satisfaction

19:34 How Joy-o-meter Works in Practice

21:57 Finding Friction and Burnout Risk

26:30 Expectations and Better Signals

29:08 Where to Learn More

29:56 ROI Proof and Closing Thoughts

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In this Resilience Unravelled episode, host Dr Russell Thackeray interviews Dr. Joel Davis Brown about consciousness as worldview and self-positioning within society, and how marginalised communities often lack the “luxury” of drifting through life unaware of systemic inequities.

Brown defines marginalised communities as those denied full access to life, liberty, and freedom, and discusses causes of marginalisation including discomfort with difference, scarcity thinking, greed, apathy, and historical inequality.

He explores reclaiming the term “queer,” describing it as a generationally contested but increasingly inclusive political and cultural umbrella within LGBTQ+ identity. Brown outlines his work as an author, poet, professor, and organisational development consultant focused on culture, strategy, and leadership, arguing effective leadership requires self-interrogation, inclusion, and resisting groupthink.

He explains why he wrote Souls of Queer Folk (2023) to uncover LGBTQ+ values and leadership lessons, and previews his upcoming healing book, I Had to Become the Father, releasing mid-August.

00:00 Welcome and Banter

00:53 Who Is Joel Brown

02:02 Defining Consciousness

04:08 Awake in Margins

06:58 What Marginalised Means

10:19 Why Marginalisation Happens

13:37 Reclaiming Queer

19:38 What Joel Does

23:02 Souls of Queer Folk Origins

29:54 Leadership Lessons From Queer Culture

41:16 Healing Book Preview

43:43 Where to Find Joel

44:18 Closing Thanks

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Host Russell Thackeray welcomes guest Andrew Gregor, a British-born, California-based architect and residential remodelling contractor who has transitioned into publishing novels.

Gregor recounts being born in Beirut, sent to UK boarding school at 10, studying architecture, building an award-winning practice in Germany, then moving to the US and starting a renovation company.

He discusses how architecture taught him practical skills like managing people, money, and materials, and reflects on AI’s potential impact as he plans to retire and write.

Gregor’s novel ‘Roscoe,’ set over 12 hours in the life of a homeless man in San Francisco, draws heavily on his own voice and experiences, including briefly sleeping in his truck after the 2009 crash and divorce.

He describes outreach work, the need to treat unhoused people with dignity, and endorses Housing First; the book won first place at the New York Book Festival and is available on major platforms.

00:00 Welcome and Introductions

00:46 Andrew’s Global Journey

01:52 From Building to Books

03:11 Architecture Skills and AI

05:19 Beirut Roots and Languages

07:07 Writing Roscoe and Voice

07:49 Orwell and Experiencing Homelessness

10:19 Close to the Edge in 2009

12:29 Dignity and Outreach Stories

15:32 Humanising Homelessness Solutions

17:56 Veterans, War, and Hypocrisy

19:41 Where to Find the Book

20:15 Connect and Closing Thanks

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Resources can be found online or link to our website https://resilienceunravelled.com