Elly Arrow interviews Yagmur Uygarkizi about her years-long research into unethical medical trials conducted on sexually exploited women and girls in the Global South, the misogyny and racism that enable such experimentation, and how it all ties into the Gates Foundation’s work on HIV, even post the Melinda French and Bill Gates' divorce.

Correction:

The Red Umbrella Fund only openly states having provided financial support to pro-prostitution organisations in Kyrgyzstan and not Kazakhstan, as mentioned in the podcast, although it did indirectly support similar groups in the country through the SWAN federation (Sex Workers’ Rights Advocacy Federation): https://swannet.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/annual-report-2024.pdf.

Links:

Yagmur Uygarkizi’s website: https://borazansesli.com/

“Prostituted Women Experimented on For Decades in USA-funded HIV Trials Overseas”: https://4w.pub/prostituted-women-experimented-on/

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Elly Arrow and Sybil Jo discuss some controversial entries to the Eurovision Song Contest 2026: "Choke Me" by Alexandra Căpitănescu aestheticizes sexualized strangulation, "Superstar" features George O'Dowd aka Boy George who infamously assaulted and falsely imprisoned a man in escort prostitution, and finally, "Andromeda" by Lelek expresses the pain of Catholic Croat families having their boys and girls kidnapped and forced into military and sexual slavery by the Ottoman Empire - but unfortunately, said history is today often reinterpreted and instrumentalized by religious zealots and dangerous nationalist movements.

Sources:

"Choke Me" by Alexandra Căpitănescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn0YmI0dPb8

About the "Choke Me" controversy: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/mar/13/romania-eurovision-song-choke-me-criticised-glamorising-sexual-strangulation

https://www.kemh.health.wa.gov.au/~/media/HSPs/NMHS/Hospitals/WNHS/Documents/Patients-resources/SARC---Non-fatal-strangulation.pdf

Alexandra Căpitănescu says "Choke Me" is about her own depression and mental health struggles: https://youtube.com/shorts/r38KNvV0yUk?is=rY-kmZGQyUiGvTX7

"Superstar" by Senhit feat. Boy George: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ZJdkqcaDw&list=RD84ZJdkqcaDw&start_radio=1

Boy George's criminal history: https://www.goodto.com/entertainment/why-did-boy-george-go-to-prison

"Andromeda" by Lelek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl7Jqnw10sU&list=RDvl7Jqnw10sU

Children in slavery in the Ottoman Empire: https://research.sabanciuniv.edu/id/eprint/42701/1/10336581.Bayraktaro%C4%9Flu_Bahar.pdf

Evaluation of traditionally Croat or Bosnian tattoos by historian Ana Sekulic: https://newlinesmag.com/essays/the-origin-stories-of-bosnian-tattoos-are-only-skin-deep/

Outrage in Turkey over "Andromeda" song: https://en.euromix.co.il/2026/03/17/eurovision-2026-turkey-outraged-by-leleks-andromeda-lyrics/

"Gag Order" by Ke$ha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk2Kkc2y8iU&list=PLCuCdnh8-13dVprHny3jdC-focV_1g5jh

"Alice" by Veronica Fusaro: https://youtu.be/PfpYGAzW5dM?si=tnxPhCgfcTY3vKsv

"Nova Zora" by Tamara Živković : https://youtu.be/nuvy2d60HbI?si=Rnh03oesdb50GEuW

"Tanzschein" by Cosmo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGP9ZphxiY&list=RDzPGP9ZphxiY

Sybil Jo is joined by her life-long friend, Sister Pauletta Duke, to discuss their shared experience of being brought up in a U.S. Christian evangelical context, the damaging patriarchal hierarchies and mechanisms at play lending themselves to controlling and manipulating women and girls, including into (commercial) sexual exploitation, and how ideas and powerful individuals from within the fundamentalist movement heavily influence mainstream U.S. politics today.

Elly Arrow speaks to Kajsa Ekis Ekman about how the surrogacy industry turns women’s reproductive capacity, as well as infants, into commodities, subject to contractual conditions and market forces. They trace the history of surrogacy, explain its modern-day practices, its appearance in the Epstein case, exploring similarities and differences between surrogacy and prostitution, and finally elaborate on how resistance against these industries can be mounted.

Links

Kajsa Ekis Ekman’s website: https://www.kajsaekisekman.org/about

“Being and Being Bought: Prostitution, Surrogacy and the Split Self“: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18727849-being-and-being-bought

Khloé Kardashian had a hard time connecting with her son after the 'transactional' nature of surrogacy: https://www.businessinsider.com/khloe-kardashian-surrogacy-tatum-relationship-2023-5

Olivia Maurel, born from surrogacy, speaks out as an adult: https://www.instagram.com/maurel_oliviaoff/

Surrogacy continues during the Ukraine war: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyp4kp687go

Books on surrogacy by Renate Klein: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/38649.Renate_Klein

Casablanca Declaration for the Universal Abolition of Surrogacy: https://declaration-surrogacy-casablanca.org/

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Sybil Jo and Elly Arrow discuss a Guardian opinion article by an anonymous 15-year-old girl reporting what she sees every day going on apps frequented by her peers, how boys her age talk about women and girls online and offline and what it means for the present and future of humanity.Sources:The article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuseGail Dines: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gail+dines

Elly Arrow and Savannah Severn discuss a new trend in soft porn and sexualized humiliation of women: Men secretly filming and photographing women on their night out - a documented phenomenon in the UK, Japan, and South Korea. These videos are then shared online and increasingly monetized amassing audiences of millions of men. It seems a global "My Life Is Not Your Porn" movement is sorely needed.

Sources:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/mar/18/disturbing-rise-of-nightlife-content-bonnie-blue

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/mar/23/those-who-view-voyeuristic-nightlife-videos-are-the-issue

Merly Asbogard, Sybil Jo, and Elly Arrow return to the subject of substance use - joined by Caroline Pugh-Roberts and Izabella - this timeto discuss possible healing pathways, particularly for women and girls traumatized by men in commercial sexual exploitation.

Caroline Pugh-Roberts on Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/aliceded

Izabella's organization "Talita": https://en.talita.se/https://en.talita.se/

Andrea Heinz speaks with Tim Lennon, a clergy abuse survivor, author of Stand Up Speak Up, and a longtime leader within SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests). Together, they explore how patterns of institutional cover-up, denial, and protection of perpetrators within the Church echo the experiences of children and adults harmed in the commercial sexual exploitation industry, and how survivors across different forms of violence can organize, find solidarity, and push for change.

Links

Tim Lennon’s website: standupspeakup.org

Tim Lennon’s book “Stand Up, Speak Up: How Survivors Created A Movement To End Sexual Violence”: https://standupspeakup.org/stand-up-speak-up-the-book/

Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests: snapnetwork.org

Resources for survivors: snapnetwork.org/resources

Bishop Accountability: bishopaccountability.org

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