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Radical Sacred

Radical Sacred

By: Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
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Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
  • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
  • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
  • Where do you experience the Holy?
  • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
  • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
  • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
  • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

Will you join them?Copyright Phillip Dieke Christianity Spirituality
Episodes
  • Walking the Path of Creativity with (Creative) Kate Thomas

    Walking the Path of Creativity with (Creative) Kate Thomas
    Jun 24 2026
    We go on an imaginative journey with Kate Thomas, a UX strategist, visual designer, and artist who lets curiosity guide her work and her life's path. Kate’s way of being is rooted in her deep spirituality, love of nature, and enjoying the wonder of every day. What can we learn about ourselves and the holiness that calls to us when we take time to listen to the quiet still voice within and to follow the sound of our own genuine? We invite you into creativity, yearning, and honoring your sacred time and your sacred self in this lovely episode with the lovely Creative Kate.


    Show Notes:
    • Figma
    • Sabrina Ward Harrison
    • Art Farm in Annapolis
    • Creative Kate Website
    • @thiscreativekate : check out her pinned post about creating pockets of hope
    • Morning Poem by Mary Oliver
    • Wild Goose Festival
    Key Topics
    • Kate's journey from graphic design to UX and art coaching
    • The role of curiosity and play in creativity
    • Using art as a spiritual and self-discovery practice
    • The metaphor of compost and chaos in growth and renewal
    • The importance of boredom and silence in creativity
    • Connecting with nature and spiritual practices
    Chapters
    00:30 Morning Reflections: The Power of Poetry
    02:00 Introducing Kate Thomas: A Journey of Creativity
    08:45 The Role of Art in Childhood and Self-Discovery
    13:23 Curiosity as a Guiding Force
    20:22 Listening to the Sound of the Genuine
    22:30 Navigating Work-Life Balance and Creative Expression
    30:16 Faith and Upbringing: The Roots of Creativity
    34:56 The Importance of Boredom and Imagination
    43:39 Finding Beauty in Chaos: The Compost Metaphor
    49:13 Future Endeavors: Eco-Grief and Community Engagement
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    52 mins
  • Rev. William H. Lamar on Ancestors, Stories, and Living Resurrection

    Rev. William H. Lamar on Ancestors, Stories, and Living Resurrection
    Jun 21 2026
    On this special Father’s Day episode of Radical Sacred we have the immense privilege of talking to Rev. William Lamar about his beautiful new book Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us. Rev. Lamar talks to us about the importance of intimately knowing and calling upon our ancestors, the perfect memory that water holds, how to listen to the still small voice within us, and the importance of silence, nature, and music. Sitting with Bill for this episode was a profound blessing and we always leave our time with him awake, aware, and more alive. We invite you to check out this fabulous episode and dive deep into the ancestors inviting you back to your truest selves.


    Show Notes:
    • Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us by William Lamar
    • Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, DC
    • I am my Ancestors’ by TaRessa Stovall
    • The DC Church that beat the Proud Boys in Court now Owns Their Name

    Key Topics
    • The biblical transfiguration story as a metaphor for ancestral engagement
    • Water as a symbol of perfect memory and spiritual renewal
    • The internal journey of self-discovery and internal cartography
    • The role of music and storytelling in connecting with ancestors
    • Resurrection as a cosmic and ecological process of renewal

    Chapters
    00:30 The Legacy of Ancestors
    02:56 Introduction to Reverend William H. Lamar IV
    05:41 The Importance of Ancestors in Faith
    07:29 Writing the Book: A Personal Journey
    11:19 The Transfiguration and Ancestral Connections
    16:00 Water as a Symbol of Memory
    22:18 The Role of Music in Spiritual Life
    28:05 Distraction and the Inner Music
    33:16 Finding Connection in Nature
    42:22 Bumping Into Oneself: The Inward Journey
    47:06 The Role of Ancestors in Our Lives
    54:56 Living Resurrection: A Poetic Invitation
    01:05:44 Father's Day Reflections and Ancestral Connections
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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Mary Fontana on Strangers in the Province of Joy

    Mary Fontana on Strangers in the Province of Joy
    Jun 17 2026
    In this timely episode we visit with the author of Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border, Mary Fontana. While in college Mary began a 20+ year relationship with Annunciation House in El Paso which houses and provides care for migrants. This book is all about the important work of Annunciation House, its surprising and tender beginnings, and about the root causes that lead to people leaving their home countries. We talk about liberation theology, the United States complicity in the instability in Central America, and what we can all do to better love our neighbor as ourselves.


    Show Notes:
    • Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border
    • Mary Fontana’s Website
    • Annunciation House
    • A Prayer of Shelter and Shadow by Pádraig ó Tuama
    Key Topics:
    • The origins and history of Annunciation House
    • The concept of radical hospitality and its importance
    • Root causes of migration including US foreign policy and climate change
    • The role of personal relationships and presence in service work
    • The intersection of faith, justice, and activism in immigration
    • The ongoing legal challenges faced by organizations like Annunciation House
    • The importance of education and awareness in changing perceptions
    • The spiritual and contemplative practices that sustain service work
    Chapters
    00:30 A Prayer for Shelter and Community
    02:35 Introducing Mary Fontana and Her Work
    05:15 The Role of Annunciation House
    10:02 Understanding Borders: Geographic and Internal
    13:08 Migration as an Earth Right
    17:52 Root Causes of Migration
    22:07 Climate Change and Migration
    26:51 The Politics of Immigration and Othering
    31:39 Emergency Response and Human Connection
    34:17 The Founders' Wisdom and Open-Heartedness
    38:55 The Role of Contemplation in Service
    43:56 Balancing Presence and Productivity
    48:49 Justice and Mercy in Hospitality
    52:10 Spreading Awareness Through Storytelling
    54:15 Radical Hospitality Defined
    58:57 Facing Political Challenges with Resilience
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    1 hr and 2 mins
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