• #125 Lara Silverman - How Do You Keep Faith When You Lose Everything?
    Feb 10 2026

    Lara Silverman discusses how to find joy in suffering.


    Key Takeaways


    - Acceptance is the Path: After losing health, career, and husband, Lara Silverman found peace by accepting her permanent illness as a "thorn in the flesh" (2 Cor 12:7), shifting from demanding healing to trusting God's will.

    - Joy in Grief is Possible: A one-year marriage to Matt, a fellow sufferer, demonstrated that joy is a gift from God in grief, not just after deliverance.

    - Suffering is a Training Ground: Pain refines faith by exposing false idols (e.g., career, marriage) and preparing believers for eternity, producing an "eternal weight of glory" (2 Cor 4:17).

    - Prepare Before the Storm: Build a robust theology of suffering now. This foundation is critical, as preparing during a crisis is the worst time to do it.


    Topics


    The 8-Year "Job Journey"


    - Health: A rare neurological illness caused chronic vertigo, forcing resignation from a dream job as a federal prosecutor.

    - Impact: Bedridden for 3 years, requiring full-time care.

    - Current State: Still bedridden 60–70% of the day.

    - Career: Resigned from the federal prosecutor role after 10 months of leave.

    - Catalyst: A devotional app message about God closing doors, which Lara interpreted as a divine sign to accept her new reality.

    - Husband: Married Matt, a fellow sufferer with terminal cancer, one year before he passed away.


    Finding Joy in the Fire


    - Theology Shift: Moved from demanding healing to accepting the illness as a permanent "thorn in the flesh" (2 Cor 12:7).

    - Rationale: This shift was prompted by a sense of God's explicit call to acceptance.

    - Joy in Grief: Matt's visit, intended to share a theology of suffering, led to their marriage.

    - Significance: Their one-year ministry demonstrated that joy is possible in suffering, not just after it.

    - Wedding Verse: Isaiah 43:20, about God providing refreshing streams in the desert.

    - The "Why" Question: Wrestled with anger and bitterness over God's will.

    - Resolution: Surrendered the need to understand why and chose to trust God's goodness, even when it doesn't make sense.


    Suffering as a Training Ground


    - Purpose in Pain: Suffering is not random but serves God's purposes.

    - Refinement: Exposes and removes idols (e.g., career, marriage).

    - Preparation: This life is a "boot camp" for eternity.

    - Glory: Produces an "eternal weight of glory" (2 Cor 4:17).

    - Vessel for Testimony: God may choose certain individuals to be vessels for showing His sustaining grace in the fire.

    - Significance: This is a powerful testimony that Christ is good even in pain.


    Next Steps


    - Read Lara Silverman's memoir, Singing Through Fire, available on Amazon.


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  • #124 Nick Vipperman - Perspective Changes Everything
    Feb 3 2026

    Nick Vipperman discusses his new book, "Switching Shoes."


    Key Takeaways


    - New Book: "Switching Shoes: The Power of Perspective" explores how a single perspective shift can instantly change emotions (e.g., anger to empathy), a phenomenon Vipperman calls "miraculous."

    - Origin: The book evolved from a sermon series Vipperman couldn't let go of, feeling a divine directive to expand the message.

    - Format: The 9-chapter book is designed for both individual and group study, with reflection questions at the end of each chapter.

    - Availability: The book is on Amazon (paperback/Kindle) and at Galilee Christian Church. A Facebook group ("Switching Shoes Power Perspective") is active for community discussion.


    Topics


    Book Origin & Core Message


    - Genesis: The book originated from a sermon series Vipperman preached years ago at Galilee Christian Church, where he has been Senior Pastor for 14 years.

    - Divine Directive: Vipperman felt a persistent, divine pull to expand the sermon into a book, despite his initial reluctance to become an author.

    - Core Concept: The book explores the "miraculous" power of perspective—a single, instantaneous shift that can transform emotions and understanding.

    - Example: A story about a pastor's anger over a stolen parking space turning into a different emotion after a perspective shift.

    - Parable: A housewife's anger over a stolen pie turns to empathy upon seeing the thief is a starving child.


    The Publishing Process


    - Self-Published: Vipperman self-published the book.

    - Editor: Melinda Rahn provided critical structure and organization, helping to develop ideas and ensure consistency.

    - Key Contribution: Rahn suggested adding reflection questions to the end of every chapter, turning a good idea into a consistent, actionable feature for readers.

    - Vulnerability: Vipperman noted the significant vulnerability in publishing a book, as the written word is permanent and open to wide, unfiltered interpretation.


    Application & Community


    - Target Audience: The book is for both Christians and those curious about faith, as the power of perspective is a universal concept.

    - Group Study: The 9-chapter format and reflection questions make it ideal for small groups.

    - Validation: A preachers' group in North Carolina is already planning to use the book for a February study.

    - Community Hub: The public Facebook group ("Switching Shoes Power Perspective") serves as a forum for readers to share stories and engage with the book's themes.

    - Future Resources: A small group study guide is a likely next step, though Vipperman is taking a short break before committing.


    Next Steps


    - Nick Vipperman:

    - Consider creating a small group study guide for the book.

    - Share additional stories and content in the "Switching Shoes Power Perspective" Facebook group.


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  • #123 Carl Nicpon - The Exit Strategy Every Founder Needs
    Jan 27 2026

    Carl Nicpon discusses preparing a business for a successful exit.


    Key Takeaways


    - Start planning an exit 3 years out. The timeline is 1 year for preparation (systems, team), 1 year for the sale process, and 1 year for post-sale transition.

    - Build a buyer-independent business. A buyer is buying a machine, not a person. Delegate all key functions (e.g., sales, operations) to a strong team to prove the business can run without the owner.

    - Hire a fractional CFO to clean up financials. This is non-negotiable. A CFO provides the rock-solid, division-specific data (e.g., profit per division) that buyers require for due diligence.

    - Use an M&A advisor to create a competitive bidding environment. This is the only way to ensure you get the maximum value for your business.


    Topics


    The Family Business Journey


    - Carl Nicpon, a 3rd-generation owner, joined the family's wedding/prom business in 2002 to modernize it.

    - Key Modernization: Shifted from sales volume to booked revenue to evaluate store performance.

    - Why: This credited the originating store for all related sales, even if fulfilled elsewhere, providing a true picture of each location's value.

    - Result: Enabled data-driven decisions on lease renewals and location strategy.

    - Exit Strategy: Built a roll-up of 7 companies → sold to a private equity group.


    The 3-Year Exit Plan


    - A 3-year timeline is essential to maximize value and ensure a smooth transition.

    - Year 1: Preparation

    - Goal: Make the business owner-independent.

    - Test: Can the business operate and generate new sales for a month without the owner? If not, delegate key functions.

    - Year 2: Sale Process

    - Duration: 9–12 months.

    - Rule: Continue running the business normally until the deal is closed.

    - Year 3: Post-Sale Transition

    - Duration: Typically 1 year.


    Critical Steps for a Successful Exit


    - Hire a Fractional CFO

    - Why: A CFO provides the financial rigor and clean records that buyers demand.

    - Example: Carl's CFO helped them track profit per division, proving the business's financial health and potential.

    - Implement a Management System (e.g., EOS)

    - Use an M&A Advisor

    - Why: Creates a competitive bidding environment to maximize sale price.

    - Why Not DIY: Owners often know one potential buyer, but this rarely yields the best offer.


    Personal Philosophy & Recommended Reading


    - Core Advice: Don't fall into the "I'll figure it out" trap for a business sale. It's a one-shot event where iteration is impossible.

    - Recommended Books:

    - The E-Myth Revisited by Michael E. Gerber

    - Traction by Gino Wickman

    - From Strength to Strength by Arthur C. Brooks


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  • #122 James Hatfield - Scaling Faster with the Right Technology
    Jan 20 2026

    James Hatfield discusses scaling home service businesses and LiveSwitch's role.


    Key Takeaways


    - Scaling Strategy: Solopreneurs should scale by hiring overseas virtual assistants (~$1,700/mo) for admin, documenting all processes, and incentivizing staff with profit-sharing bonuses (not equity) to create an "owner" mindset.

    - LiveSwitch's Value: The platform uses a text-to-video link to enable virtual estimates, automate job documentation, and generate video testimonials, saving truck rolls and increasing transparency.

    - AI for Small Business: AI is a mandatory tool, not a competitive advantage. Start by experimenting with platforms like Gemini for simple tasks (contracts, emails) to learn its practical applications.

    - Partnership Opportunity: Matthew will join LiveSwitch's ambassador program at the "Pro" level ($200/mo base + $250/referral) and introduce Hatfield to his network, including an Atlanta CEO group and a CRM company.


    Topics


    Scaling a Home Service Business


    - Founder's Journey: Hatfield scaled from a solopreneur painting business to a multi-billion-dollar tech company (sold to KKR), then co-founded LiveSwitch.

    - Scaling Advice:

    - Know Your Numbers: Understand financials (EBITDA, SDE) to make informed decisions.

    - Hire Creatively:

    - First Hire: An overseas virtual assistant (~$1,700/mo) for 24/7 phone answering and admin.

    - Next Hire: Fill the owner's weakest area (e.g., sales, operations).

    - Incentivize Staff: Create an "owner" mindset with bonuses tied to profit or KPIs.

    - Profit-Sharing: A percentage of Seller's Discretionary Income (SDE).

    - KPI Bonuses: A fixed bonus pool distributed based on individual performance.

    - Non-Monetary

    - Optimize Operations:

    - Document Everything: Use video to create training materials and processes.

    - Track Metrics: Know your capacity (e.g., 180 pest control customers per truck).

    - Leverage Nimbleness: Small businesses can adopt new tech faster than large ones.

    - Recruiting Strategy:

    - Hire for Character: Prioritize hunger, hustle, and integrity over teachable skills.

    - Build an "Attractional" Brand:

    - Daily LinkedIn: Post content and send 15 connection requests.

    - Social Media: Showcase team culture and project success.

    - Branding: A professional brand justifies higher prices and attracts talent.


    Practical AI for Small Business


    - AI as a Mandatory Tool: AI is the new electricity—a requirement, not a competitive edge.

    - How to Start:

    - Experiment: Use platforms like Gemini or ChatGPT for simple tasks (e.g., drafting an email).

    - Ask the AI: Prompt it to suggest ways it can help your specific business.

    - Learn from Mistakes: Initial failures are part of the learning curve.


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  • #121 Bryan Smith - Where Faith Gets Real: On Mission
    Jan 13 2026

    Bryan Smith shares how his faith influences his life and his family.


    Key Takeaways


    - Faith Journey: Bryan's faith became personal at 27 after a simple prayer ("Lord, help us know you") led to a profound encounter with scripture, shifting his view of the Bible from an obligation to an invitation.

    - Mission Trips: Short-term mission trips (Nicaragua, Bolivia, Ecuador) became a family tradition, providing a "dangerous" discipleship experience that fostered gratitude and exposed them to global need.

    - Parenting: Bryan advises parents to be active leaders, setting boundaries (e.g., delaying cell phones) to protect children from the world's worldview and create space for God.

    - Idolatry: A career crisis revealed Bryan's identity was tied to his CTO title. He now warns against this common "accidental idolatry," stressing that self-worth must be rooted in being a child of God, not in worldly achievements.


    Topics


    Faith Journey & Personal Revival


    - Background: Raised in a Christian home, Bryan experienced a "prodigal son" phase in his late teens/early 20s.

    - Catalyst: At 27, married with two daughters, he realized his faith was a Sunday-only habit, not a personal relationship.

    - Turning Point: Inspired by a pastor's sermon, he began a simple prayer, "Lord, help us know you."


    Mission Trips & Family Discipleship


    - Origin: Started with a church trip to a Nicaraguan orphanage in 2008.

    - Impact: Working with a boy named Giovanni on a bench made Jesus's command to care for the poor profoundly real.


    Overcoming Distraction & Staying Connected


    - Challenge: Bryan felt distant from God, realizing his life was too "noisy" and "comfortable" to hear the Holy Spirit.

    - Root Cause: A works-based approach to faith, trying to earn closeness instead of surrendering to God.

    - Solution: Surrender to God and ask Him to reveal areas of resistance.


    Parenting in a Counter-Cultural World


    - Core Principle: Parents must be active leaders, not passive delegators.

    - Key Advice:

    - Delay Cell Phones: Protect children from the world's worldview and teach them to be "bored" (creating space for God).

    - Enrich, Don't Just Restrict: Invest time and create opportunities tailored to each child's needs.

    - Embrace Hard Conversations: Be willing to make difficult decisions, prioritizing stewardship over popularity.


    The Danger of Idolatry


    - Personal Lesson: A career crisis (as CTO of a cybersecurity startup for 10 years) revealed Bryan's identity was tied to his job title.

    - Realization: This was "accidental idolatry"—making a worldly achievement more important than his faith.

    - Warning: Idolatry is common and can take many forms (consumerism, titles, hobbies).

    - Core Truth: Self-worth must be rooted in being a "child of the living God," not in worldly achievements.



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  • #120 Drew Ann Long - Building Demand From Nothing
    Jan 6 2026

    Drew Ann Long shares the incredible story of Caroline's Cart.


    Key Takeaways


    - Problem: In 2008, Drew Ann Long's disabled daughter outgrew standard carts, revealing a major accessibility gap for the world's largest minority group.

    - Solution: Long invented Caroline's Cart, but after being rejected by all 4 major US manufacturers, she self-funded the first 88 carts with her family's 401k.

    - Strategy: Long seeded the 88 carts in small stores nationwide, using social media to create massive consumer demand that forced the largest manufacturer to license her patent.

    - Impact: The cart is now standard equipment in major retailers (Walmart, Target, Lowe's) across 8 countries, and Long's speaking fees fund Caroline's Cause, a nonprofit for siblings of special needs children.


    Topics


    The Problem: A Critical Market Gap


    - Long's middle daughter, Caroline (25), is severely disabled, non-verbal, and non-ambulatory.

    - In 2008, Caroline outgrew all available shopping carts (standard, fun-carts, scooters).

    - This revealed a critical market gap: no shopping cart existed for the special needs community, which Long identified as the world's largest minority group.



    The Struggle: From Napkin to Prototype



    - Initial Rejection: Long's "napkin drawing" was dismissed by all 4 major US shopping cart manufacturers.

    - Self-Funding: Forced to proceed alone, Long self-funded the first prototype for $28,000, exhausting family savings.

    - Prototype Validation: A May 2011 social media post of the prototype generated instant, overwhelming demand, confirming the market need.


    The Breakthrough: Creating Demand & Securing a Partner


    - Second Rejection: Long's second attempt to pitch the prototype to the largest manufacturer also failed.

    - First Production Run: Long found a small Georgia manufacturer (who made lumber carts) to produce 100 carts for $100,000.

    - Funding: The family took a $100,000 loan from their 401k, adding to their ~$500,000 total debt.

    - Outcome: A factory fire reduced the first run to 88 carts.

    - Strategic Seeding: Long sold the 88 carts to local "mom and pop" stores nationwide.

    - Goal: Use social media to create widespread consumer demand that major retailers could not ignore.

    - Major Retailer Pressure: The strategy worked. Major retailers (Walmart, Target) began requesting Caroline's Cart from the largest manufacturer.

    - Licensing Deal: The manufacturer, now facing retailer pressure, called Long and signed a licensing contract on her third visit.


    The Success: National Rollouts & Global Expansion


    - Target: National rollout to every US store in 2017.

    - Lowe's: National rollout to every store in 2018.

    - Walmart: National rollout to all Supercenters, Neighborhood Markets, and Sam's Clubs in July 2024, securing the industry's "gold medal."

    - Global Reach: The cart is now available in 8 countries, including Dubai.


    The Legacy: Caroline's Cause & Speaking


    - Business Model: Long licenses her patent to the manufacturer, operating as a one-person business.

    - Caroline's Cause: A nonprofit providing college scholarships for siblings of special needs children.

    - Rationale: To recognize the sacrifices made by these siblings.

    - Funding: Long's speaking fees are donated to the scholarship fund.

    - Impact: 18 scholarships awarded to date.


    You can subscribe to the podcast at https://matthewefird.com.



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  • #119 Sam Wegner - What Waiting Teaches Faith
    Dec 30 2025

    Sam Wegner discusses faith, waiting, and anticipatory grief.


    Key Takeaways


    - Waiting is a Prerequisite for Hope: Romans 8:24–25 shows that hope for the unseen requires waiting. Since hope is a component of faith, and faith is required to please God (Hebrews 11:6), waiting is an essential part of the Christian life.

    - Affliction is a Tool for Good: Psalm 119:68–71 reveals that God is good and uses affliction for our good, specifically to teach us His statutes. This reframes suffering as a divine tool for growth, not a sign of abandonment.

    - The "Waiting Wheel" is God's Process: This cycle (Confidence → Faith → Testing → Perseverance → Character → Confidence) is how God builds us incrementally, like "leveling up" in a video game, providing a larger toolkit for each new challenge.

    - Honest Desperation Deepens Faith: Expressing raw pain to God is not weakness but a necessary step to surrender control and fully rely on Him. This paradoxical faith ("I believe; help my unbelief") is where true strength is found.


    Topics


    The Weight of Waiting


    - Sam's book, The Weight of the Wait, stems from a friend's question about the "weight" of his wife Crystal's metastatic breast cancer diagnosis.

    - Sam's answer: "The heaviest part of the weight is the wait."

    - The struggle was not with the inevitability of death, but with the prolonged waiting period.

    - This insight led to a scriptural revelation: waiting is a prerequisite for hope.

    - Romans 8:24–25: Hope for the unseen requires waiting.

    - Hebrews 11:1, 6: Hope is a component of faith, and faith is required to please God.

    - Conclusion: Waiting is an essential part of pleasing God.


    Navigating Anticipatory Grief


    - Crystal's diagnosis led to a season of anticipatory grief, marked by emotional exhaustion and an inability to pray aloud.

    - A new oncologist recommended a recently approved drug with an average life expectancy of ~9 months.

    - The family prayed for Crystal to live through Christmas and Easter.

    - Crystal remained on the drug for over 3.5 years—the longest the oncologist had ever seen.

    - Sam's advice for others in this season:

    - Don't fear expressing weakness. It is not a sign of weak faith but a necessary step to surrender control and fully rely on God.

    - Be brutally honest with God. Expressing pain and desperation is a form of worship that leads to peace.


    The "Waiting Wheel" for Spiritual Growth


    - The "Waiting Wheel" is a model for spiritual growth found in James 1 and Romans 5.

    - It describes an incremental cycle:

    1. Confidence: In God's character (hope).

    2. Faith: Acting on that hope.

    3. Testing: Trials that test faith.

    4. Perseverance: The product of testing.

    5. Character: Matured perseverance builds God's character in us.


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  • #118 Greg Workmon - What 3000% Growth Taught Me
    Dec 23 2025

    Greg Workmon discusses scaling LoadUp and personal growth.


    Key Takeaways


    - Formalize early to avoid crisis: LoadUp's lack of a purpose statement caused an identity crisis at $15M revenue, leading to poor decisions and financial losses. Formalizing values and mission was a painful but necessary fix.

    - Software enables scale: A robust software platform was the key enabler, replacing inefficient spreadsheets and email to manage national logistics and build customer confidence.

    - Pride is a growth killer: Early success (3,000% growth) led to arrogance, causing Greg to ignore critical advice. Humility and seeking wisdom from mentors were essential for recovery.

    - Priorities over profit: Chasing money led to personal emptiness and neglected relationships. Greg's advice: prioritize family over business, even if time allocation is unequal.


    Topics


    The Origin Story


    - Greg's background: Logistics (moving, last-mile delivery) and waste management.

    - Initial venture: A side gig picking up mattresses in Atlanta.

    - Identified a market gap: Incumbents wouldn't price over the phone.

    - A simple website ranked #1 on Google, generating immediate demand.

    - The "Uberization" pivot:

    - Realized the physical work was unsustainable.

    - Inspired by Uber, decided to build a platform connecting customers with haulers.

    - National expansion:

    - Major e-commerce bed-in-a-box brands (Casper, Purple) found the Atlanta site and sought a national solution.

    - Greg agreed, then built an order form and found local haulers on the fly—a tactic he now advises against for compliance reasons.


    The Scaling Crisis & Recovery


    - Problem: Rapid growth outpaced organizational structure.

    - At ~$15M revenue, the company was a "sailboat without a rudder," lacking a clear mission.

    - This directionlessness caused poor decisions and financial losses.

    - Solution: A painful but necessary formalization process.

    - Defined a purpose statement, mission, and core values.

    - Resulted in significant team turnover as some members didn't align with the new direction.

    - Framework: Adopted the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) to provide structure.


    The LoadUp Marketplace Model


    - Core Function: A two-sided marketplace connecting customers with independent haulers ("Loaders").

    - Value for Haulers:

    - Provides a powerful digital marketing arm, solving a key challenge in a saturated market.

    - Offers a source of repeat business.

    - Value for Customers:

    - Provides a national, turnkey solution for bulky item removal.

    - Offers transparent, upfront pricing.

    - Technology:

    - AI-powered image recognition is in development.


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