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People Places Planet

People Places Planet

By: Environmental Law Institute
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Welcome to People Places Planet, ELI's leading environmental podcast. We talk to leading experts across sectors who share their solutions to the world's most pressing environmental problems. Tune in for the latest environmental law, policy, and governance developments.© Environmental Law Institute 2023 Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • Forever Chemicals, State Solutions: New Mexico's PFAS Playbook
    Jun 17 2026

    Forever chemicals are everywhere — in your carpet, your cookware, your cosmetics, and increasingly, your drinking water. PFAS — per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances — have been building up in our environment, our water, and our bodies for decades. And while federal regulatory momentum on forever chemicals is stalling, states are moving in the opposite direction. In this episode of People Places Planet, we sit down with Secretary Jim Kenney, General Counsel Zachary Ogaz, and Assistant General Counsel Greg Smithkier from the New Mexico Environment Department to break down what PFAS are, why they're so difficult to eliminate, and what state-level action actually looks like in practice.


    They walk us through New Mexico's multi-pronged PFAS strategy: listing aqueous film forming foam (AFFF) as a hazardous waste, phasing out PFAS-containing consumer products, and implementing the country's first-ever consumer product labeling icon for intentionally added PFAS. They also discuss the state's ongoing litigation against the Department of Defense over PFAS contamination at Cannon Air Force Base.


    New Mexico has emerged as a national leader on PFAS action, and this conversation reveals exactly how — and why it matters for every state. With EPA rolling back MCLs and retreating from class-based regulation, the episode raises a broader question: can a patchwork of state policies produce national standards? And, at what cost to states already stretched thin on resources and scientific capacity?

    Also, be sure to check out ELI's recent report Current Trends in Toxics Litigation for more information on PFAS litigation trends.

    • What are PFAS, what risks do they pose, and where can they be found? (01:38)
    • PFAS regulation at the State and Federal level (10:13)
    • New Mexico's PFAS playbook: hazardous waste listing, phase-outs, and labeling (14:42)
    • Litigation and the Cannon Air Force Base case (26:46)
    • New Mexico's PFAS conversation in DC (35:11)
    • What's next: federal science, state capacity, and closing thoughts (40:06)
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    49 mins
  • Designing for the Future: Circular Strategies Reshaping Fashion and Textiles
    Jun 3 2026

    The fashion and textiles industry accounts for up to 10% of global greenhouse gas emissions, consumes 93 billion cubic meters of water annually, and generates 92 million tons of waste each year — yet only 1% of textiles are recycled back into new products. In this episode, we sit down with three leading experts to unpack one of the most resource-intensive industries on the planet and explore what a genuinely circular textiles sector could look like.

    We're joined by Mark Sumner, Head of Textiles at WRAP; Sarah Morley, Strategic Engagement Manager at WRAP Americas; and Linda Breggin, Senior Attorney at the Environmental Law Institute. Together, we trace the full lifecycle of a garment from field to landfill, examine fast fashion as a consumer behavior rather than just a retail phenomenon, and explore how circular design, durability standards, voluntary industry agreements, and policy intervention are beginning to reshape the system.

    Whether you're working in sustainability, environmental policy, waste reduction, or supply chain management, this episode offers both the big-picture framework and the on-the-ground insights you need to understand where the textiles industry is headed — and what it will take to get there. See WRAP's website for more information.

    • Introduction: The Environmental Footprint of the Fashion and Textiles Industry (02:37)
    • Lifecycle of a Garment: Hotspots, Impacts, and Intervention Points (03:47)
    • Circular Design in Practice: The Pillars of a More Sustainable Textiles Industry (11:05)
    • Changing Consumer Behavior (21:34)
    • The UK Textiles Pact and the Durability Accelerator: Industry Collaboration in Action (29:49)
    • WRAP's US Expansion: Landscape Review, Gaps, and the Road Ahead (45:14)
    • The Role of State and Local Governments (48:33)
    • Concluding Thoughts (54:43)
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    58 mins
  • TSCA, Explained
    May 20 2026

    The Toxic Substances Control Act is the cornerstone of chemical regulation in the United States — but for most of its existence, it was widely considered unenforceable. In this episode of People, Places, Planet's Explained series, host Sebastian Duque Rios is joined by Lynn Bergeson, Managing Partner of Bergeson & Campbell, and Bob Sussman, former senior EPA official and Principal at Sussman & Associates, to break down TSCA from the ground up.

    Together, they walk through the foundational building blocks of the law — what chemicals TSCA covers, how Sections 4, 5, and 6 govern testing, new chemical pre-market review, and existing chemical risk evaluation, and why the "unreasonable risk" standard at the heart of the statute proved so difficult to apply in practice. They also trace how the 1991 Corrosion Proof Fittings decision paralyzed EPA's regulatory authority for a generation, and what the 2016 Lautenberg Act fundamentally changed.

    Lynn and Bob are co-chairs of the TSCA Reform 10 Years Later conference, taking place June 10th at George Washington University — a free, hybrid event covering risk evaluation, risk management, new chemicals, and the legislative road ahead. The annual conference is co-sponsored by ELI, Bergeson & Campbell, P.C., and the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health. Register here to attend in-person or via livestream. For those who wish to attend in-person, please registration will close on June 9, 2026, or when capacity is reached.

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    58 mins
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